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Jolly

It was clearly a deal - your freedom for your immigrants. Bove confiscated the DoJ attorney’s notes from the meeting with Adam’s attorneys.

It's a deal.

Worth it?

jon-nyc

Seems like basic corruption. I let you out of criminal charges if you advance my political agenda.

Jolly

Seems like a typical criminal deal. Let one fish go, so you can get a lot more fish.

jon-nyc

No it’s different. DoJ does that to lower level crime figures to get to the boss of the same syndicate. You’re more effectively going after the same set of crimes, making an even bigger example.

This is your freedom for advancing my political agenda.

I think Trump would never be able to recognize corruption from himself or his own ranks. To him it’s all just deal making. You get something, I get something.

Jolly

No, it's different in your opinion. I look at it as a win.

I don't think Adams will be reelected.
ICE gains access to a lot, and I mean a lot, of illegals.
ICE gains cooperation from NYPD, etc.

jon-nyc

Certainly corruption can be considered a win, depending on which side of the transaction you find yourself.

jon-nyc

Re Adam’s and the election, I would like to think that this deal alone would make him more likely to lose the primary. But the problem is it’s really crowded and he’s the only one with decent name recognition

Jolly

This has a political element, but that seems to be the only thing you're concentrating on. I look at this as a criminal justice problem...Adams hasn't killed, raped or maimed anybody, but a lot of the illegals in NYC have committed such acts...Not to mention the growing power of the cartels in New York and their use of illegals for sex trafficking and the illicit drug trade.

So, we let Adams go, but we get some bad people off the street.

Jolly

@jon-nyc said in Vindicated:

Re Adam’s and the election, I would like to think that this deal alone would make him more likely to lose the primary. But the problem is it’s really crowded and he’s the only one with decent name recognition

Cuomo.

jon-nyc

He’s not in yet and his name recognition cuts both ways.

Jolly

@jon-nyc said in Vindicated:

He’s not in yet and his name recognition cuts both ways.

He's a pretty good politician, though. I'm guessing he would do well in the primary.

Does the GOP have anything at all?

jon-nyc

There’s been talk the last couple days of Adams switching parties.

But I don’t think they’re running anyone known.

jon-nyc

Wow. He's just openly saying on live TV that this is a quid pro quo and Adams has to do want Trump wants on immigration or he's going to jail.

taiwan_girl

@jon-nyc Great minds think alike!! (Or idiots run in pairs!). LOL

I was just going to post that!

Horace

Deals, compromises, and agreements in politics. I'll need time to process my emotions.

jon-nyc

Usually this don't include threats of prosecution hanging over ones head like a sword of Damocles. Seems rather lawfarish to me.

Horace

@jon-nyc I'm happy that you've found an inner conviction against lawfare, but you accidentally wrote it like the Trump admin invented some flimsy charges and threatened him with them. I know you wouldn't want to imply something that wasn't true, so you're welcome for the correction.

jon-nyc

It depends on how one defines lawfare. At its most basic it strikes me that any use of the prosecutorial power for political purposes would qualify.

jon-nyc

One could argue there’s a civil equivalent too.

Horace

Again, it's good that you've developed convictions against that sort of thing in politics.

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