Trump and your expectations
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He's been a bit worse than I expected, but I think it's mostly just sound and fury, signifying nothing, as Old Bill would say. All this wanking off about how American could take Canada and Greenland is so silly.
I was only joking
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All this wanking off about how American could take Canada and Greenland is so silly.
Talk of annexing Canada might have been just silly in November or early December but since last month its continual repetition is creating nothing other than intense resentment here. No one here is treating it as a joke any more.
‘a-blowe yow and be-kele yow wel, and comyth up all with your ease’ ~ attributed to Henry V
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump and your expectations:
I think clear pardons for any non-violent offenders and case by case beyond that. I actually don’t mind the Gaza stuff, I think I see where he’s going. The Canada thing is weird, but as much as I love Blondie and Renauda (in a hunting and fishing kind of way), I don’t mind the reminder that even our close allies are still competitors and that not all of our goals line up.
Competitors? No, I disagree. We can’t compete with your country. You folks are huge by population, by economics, by manufacturing, by military, by everything. It’s Mr. Trump who’s now making us out to be a “competitor” like it’s a battle or something. To me, our countries have always had a symbiotic respectful relationship.
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He swings for the fences. That's for sure. And in America's history, sometimes that's worked out. I think both friend and foe would like him to STFU at times, but everyone has learned that is not his nature.
I think his fan base appreciates that he communicates with them - a LOT. That was a negative for Biden. If Trump takes a dump and it's a big one, he wants to post about it. If Biden cured cancer, he'd mention it in some dull speech that even Jill wouldn't care about.
As for accomplishments, most Presidents are as good as the people and plans provided to them along with paying debts to those who got him elected. Trump is betting on Elon - because Elon was a winner in the past and bought influence. He's supporting Israel because he has had some major donations there. Project 2025 is moving forward because it is being marketed to him on the basis of benefits - and he trusts the people who created it. "This order will bring about //insert good thought here//, please sign." I think from his team's basis, he's doing great.
Personally, I think Elon is a smart guy - a lucky guy - but as to whether everything he touches turns to gold - I'm not so sure. He's known to be the guy to put it all on the line on one spin of the wheel - ok when you're the one paying for it - but maybe a bit dangerous when a nation and the world are the potential losers. America's founding fathers intended a lot of safeguards. I don't think they knew folks like Trump and Musk - who live their lives pushing boundaries.
ADD: Not wild about his unadulterated affection for tariffs - think that could be the straw that lead to some economic woes - if he isn't willing to back down. His predilection to bash allies - also not a favorite ploy.
It's gonna be an interesting ride - that's for sure.
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@blondie said in Trump and your expectations:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump and your expectations:
I think clear pardons for any non-violent offenders and case by case beyond that. I actually don’t mind the Gaza stuff, I think I see where he’s going. The Canada thing is weird, but as much as I love Blondie and Renauda (in a hunting and fishing kind of way), I don’t mind the reminder that even our close allies are still competitors and that not all of our goals line up.
To me, our countries have always had a symbiotic respectful relationship.
That's how I see it, too. 'Murricans are often quick to say something like "Canada wouldn't be anything without America." Yeah, well, the reverse is just as true, and Canada needs to be able to be Canada.
We've been playing the equality of outcome game long enough now that the cracks are starting to show. Things simply don't work like they used to. I'm hoping from this administration we get something like a return to competence as a leadership metric. (I'm not saying the administration is going to supply that in any way—it would be ludicrous to hope for that. Rather, I'm hoping that it's the dismantling of race-based leadership that trickles down.)
Other than that, if I'm able to pick up my car keys, leave my house that's still standing, drive to an existing Starbucks, afford a cup of coffee and then drive back home on roads that haven't been bombed in four years, I'll be very impressed.
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@Renauda said in Trump and your expectations:
All this wanking off about how American could take Canada and Greenland is so silly.
Talk of annexing Canada might have been just silly in November or early December but since last month its continual repetition is creating nothing other than intense resentment here. No one here is treating it as a joke any more.
Silly wasn't really the right word to use, and I wasn't trying to play down how offensive Trump is being.
God alone knows which peanut gallery he is trying to play to with this rubbish.
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@Copper said in Trump and your expectations:
@Klaus said in Trump and your expectations:
How did Trump perform so far relative to the expectations you had before the election?
Practically perfect in every way.
Seeing that you are being your usual nebulous and passive aggressive self, let me be neighbourly and help you to be more transparent in what you mean by perfect:
https://ia800609.us.archive.org/23/items/VariousWorks/Ferengi-RulesOfAcquisition.pdf
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump and your expectations:
God alone knows which peanut gallery he is trying to play to with this rubbish.
Yes, and that's kind of the trouble. Trump always leads with the Barnum and Bailey. I'm happy with 90% of the things he's doing here in the United States. All that DEI and Trans stuff needed to go, but most of that is just a change in vibe not Presidential fiat. And maybe there are whole department of government that need to go--and if they are just fluff they should disappear--but it wouldn't hurt to look things over a bit, there may be some things worth keeping. Who knows? Not Trump and not the American people. But that's all our (that is, America's) problem.
On the other hand, I'm not too happy with Trump's forign policy overall. We have friends and we should keep them, we have enemies and we should beat them, and we should not confuse the two.
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@AndyD said in Trump and your expectations:
Loving us enough to buy Turnberry and MacLoed for his golfing downtime portfolio, Trump(CF) probably just wants a teensy weensy bit of love in return.
Somebody should sell him on the idea of building a golf course further south. There's a big area just north of Salisbury that might work really well.
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@kluurs said in Trump and your expectations:
Trump is betting on Elon - because Elon was a winner in the past and bought influence.
Well, he didnt always think that way. LOL
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