Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 02:17 last edited by Renauda 16 days from now@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors.
There’s actually an historical precedent for such a governing body.
It was called the Politburo - an innovation of Lenin and perfected by Stalin. Later adopted by Mao.
Not by any stretch of the imagination an institution characteristic of any functioning liberal democracy ever on the planet.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 02:31 last edited by@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors.
Why stop there? Just one bloke would be much more cost-effective. Musk could then change his job title to Grand Vizier, grow an interesting moustache and start wearing those satin shoes that curl up at the end.
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 03:05 last edited by
Hats off to Horace for at least some thought.
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 13:46 last edited by
And therein lies the Truth: https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-840776?dicbo=v2-uytKEQQ
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 13:47 last edited by
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
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The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:09 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
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@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Move the folks from Gaza to our new state of Greenland.
No solution, eh?
These things were always solved with some combination of extermination and assimilation, neither of which is workable today. So, no solution. Just permanent conflict, unless the Palestinian culture evolves.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:10 last edited by@Horace said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
So, no solution. Just permanent conflict, unless the Palestinian culture evolves.
Yup, in a nutshell.
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In a world without backlash from those with luxury beliefs, I.e. the world as it always was before the modern west and its diseased cultures became prevalent, Trump's idea is fine. But it's unworkable today, and the terrorism would render a vacation resort completely unworkable. (Not to mention the process by which a vacation resort could ever be built. Over the dead bodies of the current inhabitants?) Or that's what I think.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:11 last edited by@Horace said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Not to mention the process by which a vacation resort could ever be built. Over the dead bodies of the current inhabitants?
There'd be so many land acknowledgements!
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I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:14 last edited by@Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
Sorry, I don't buy it. Has really no one thought of "let's rebuild it into a nice city!" yet?
If Biden had said it, MAGA would be saying he is senile and thinking of something 2nd graders already asked, but since Trump said it...
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@Axtremus said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Have we tried "no nothing"?
Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?Horace said:
These things were always solved with some combination of extermination and assimilation, neither of which is workable today.
That's the end result of doing nothing. I do agree that's the historical answer. I'm not entirely sure it's unworkable.
Nobody wants the Palestinians. Egypt and Jordan would love for them to just go away, for they are a huge destabilizing influence in both countries as their numbers rise. The Saudis don't want them, either. The Iranians could care less about them, they're just useful tools.
Since we can't just eradicate them, and it's no use to keep bathing them in money (since the people get very little of the money), maybe it's time to cut off most aid. Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:16 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.
True. Like most poor countries, the only workable solution is an economic one.
Maybe USAID can help.
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The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:18 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
Ah, the money shot.
Bill O'Reilly had an interesting tidbit... The Gaza thing was not a throw-off. Trump and O'Reilly had talked about it, two days before the public statement. In fact, Trump had expounded at length (30 minutes) about the problem. At its core (in his mind) is poverty and culture that nurtures radical Islam.
Trump, being Trump, looks at all those demolished buildings, looks at all that Mediterranean coastline, and ponders what would happen if that land was developed? How many jobs would hotels and resorts generate? How many ancillary jobs would they be responsible for? Could a more prosperous Palestinian population tamp down the power of Hamas and Hezbollah?
Yet, he knows that won't happen. But what if?
As said, it's a rhetorical hand grenade. But at least it refocused the world on Gaza and its problems.
And who knows? Maybe we try MGGA (Make Gaza Great Again).
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:19 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
Ah, the money shot.
Bill O'Reilly had an interesting tidbit... The Gaza thing was not a throw-off. Trump and O'Reilly had talked about it, two days before the public statement. In fact, Trump had expounded at length (30 minutes) about the problem. At its core (in his mind) is poverty and culture that nurtures radical Islam.
Trump, being Trump, looks at all those demolished buildings, looks at all that Mediterranean coastline, and ponders what would happen if that land was developed? How many jobs would hotels and resorts generate? How many ancillary jobs would they be responsible for? Could a more prosperous Palestinian population tamp down the power of Hamas and Hezbollah?
Yet, he knows that won't happen. But what if?
As said, it's a rhetorical hand grenade. But at least it refocused the world on Gaza and its problems.
And who knows? Maybe we try MGGA (Make Gaza Great Again).
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:20 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
As said, it's a rhetorical hand grenade. But at least it refocused the world on Gaza and its problems.
It's called a distraction grenade from all of these EOs.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:21 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
Yeah Steve Bannon a few years ago talked about this strategy. Flood the media with controversial ideas, which provides cover for his agenda to be executed. From a strategery perspective, it makes sense.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes 16 days from now@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
All I know is that you shouldn't be the gobshite guy standing at the front boasting about "his team"'s achievements when the ridiculous jerry-built bridge comes crashing down.
Even more importantly, don't be the hopeless brown-nosing subordinate standing behind him saying "You're doing great Marty!" who has to clean up all the crap at the end of the meeting.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:36 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
I think you’re wrong. There is a strategy, and I think the strategy is working. Media and the left start screaming about Canadian Tariffs, he hits them with USAID. They start screaming about USAID, he hits them with Gaza. Nobody’s talking about USAID, today… They start screaming about Gaza and he hits them with Dep Ed… I don’t believe for a minute that this is haphazard and off the cuff. This is too fast, too hard, and too out there. This was thought out and scripted months ago.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The reaction to this is absolutely hilarious. Here’s the secret sauce - Trump throws out a very bold and unconventional idea. People freak out. Trump doubles down, people freak out even more. Concessions get made. Maybe Trump gets what he wants, maybe he doesn’t, but he gets more than he had. Repeat ad nauseum…
But aside from that, what ARE they going to do in Gaza? Send 2 million people back into that hellhole that’s falling apart, with buildings ready to collapse? California isn’t letting their own residents back into neighborhoods that were burned down, why would we think sending Palestinians back to their shelled cities is any better? And what do we think is going to happen? The Arab nations have shown no willingness to rebuild Gaza or help the Palestinians. They also have proven over and over that there is 0 interest on their part for a true 2 state solution, so let’s stop that foolishness right now. You can’t seriously expect Israel to go in and rebuild the infrastructure AGAIN. All polls show the Palestinians still love Hamas. It’s insanity to keep expecting things to change when we keep doing the same things. The only real solution that I can see is for a third party to step in and administer Gaza, and that sure as hell ain’t going to be the UN. Especially after their groups PARTICIPATED in the frigging attacks?
A US administered Gaza might be about the only possible new solution, and it will be a bitch of a job.
Don't you get the the teensiest feeling that he's all over the place? Greenland, Canada, Mexico, China, Gaza, Inflation, Tarrifs.... and so on.
There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another. It feels like those fucking annoying leadership courses where you have to sit in a room with a bunch of marketing weasels and build a bridge out of straws and rubber bands. Anybody with an ounce of common sense leaves the gob-shite in sales to get on with it and make an arse of himself whilst ensuring they're at the front of the line for the lunch buffet.
Shock and Awe, baby!
Exactly! Can’t protest over USAID when he’s taking over Gaza! No, we have to save the Department of Education! No, the FBI! No, RFK JR!
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:39 last edited by
Yup, distraction grenade
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@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.
True. Like most poor countries, the only workable solution is an economic one.
Maybe USAID can help.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:39 last edited by@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.
True. Like most poor countries, the only workable solution is an economic one.
Maybe USAID can help.
Sure, once it’s been gutted and overhauled.
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 14:41 last edited by Mik 16 days from now
You may well be on to something there, Lufin.
The question of what to do now in Gaza remains. The problem is Hamas also remains. I agree that the solution is for the Gazans to have more to lose than to gain with Hamas. The real question is can we get them to love their children more than they hate Israel. A brighter future, which is admittedly hazy right now, could help.