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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    That’s the context missing here, how many weren’t deported, simply not allowed entry?

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    @LuFins-Dad said in 308 down…:

    That’s the context missing here, how many weren’t deported, simply not allowed entry?

    Not really. Seem like two different task with two different sets of (at least personnel) resources. The field office in NJ can make a certain amount of arrests whether the border is leaky or tight.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      @George-K

      Seems to me counting them is ok if, under previous policy, they would have been let in pending an asylum hearing. If not then it seems like cheating.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        But, but, but, I was told that President Trump shut down the border during his first term.

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          https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-immigration-ice/2025/02/03/id/1197607/

          Some immigrants arrested last week have been released back into the U.S. on a monitoring program due to space constraints and court orders, reported NBC News.

          The report comes as President Donald Trump is set to test the limits of his immigration crackdown by invoking a wartime law to deport immigrants alleged to be gang members without court hearings, a broad authority that could supercharge his mass deportation push and potentially sweep in people not charged with crimes.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            But, but, but, I was told that President Trump shut down the border during his first term.

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            @taiwan_girl He tried his damndest, and he had some success. If the Dems would have worked with him, he would have done even better.

            Or did you not remember that part?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @taiwan_girl He tried his damndest, and he had some success. If the Dems would have worked with him, he would have done even better.

              Or did you not remember that part?

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              @Jolly I just presented the above with no comment. 😛

              I have mentioned here many times here that I am in favor of increased legal immigration but am not a fan of illegal immigration.

              Ive also said I am pretty sure that the vast majority of illegal immigrants here in the US came here for economic reasons.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                IIRC, Eisenhower brought in a general to address deportations and border control...

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                @Jolly said in 308 down…:

                IIRC, Eisenhower brought in a general to address deportations and border control...

                Thanks to that general, we have the immigration problems we have today with the southern border.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Jolly said in 308 down…:

                  IIRC, Eisenhower brought in a general to address deportations and border control...

                  Thanks to that general, we have the immigration problems we have today with the southern border.

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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in 308 down…:

                  @Jolly said in 308 down…:

                  IIRC, Eisenhower brought in a general to address deportations and border control...

                  Thanks to that general, we have the immigration problems we have today with the southern border.

                  Care to expand?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in 308 down…:

                    @Jolly said in 308 down…:

                    IIRC, Eisenhower brought in a general to address deportations and border control...

                    Thanks to that general, we have the immigration problems we have today with the southern border.

                    Care to expand?

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                    @Jolly said in 308 down…:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in 308 down…:

                    @Jolly said in 308 down…:

                    IIRC, Eisenhower brought in a general to address deportations and border control...

                    Thanks to that general, we have the immigration problems we have today with the southern border.

                    Care to expand?

                    He didn't understand the difference between the kinds of illegal immigrants we had. A great many of them hopped the border, worked here for a bit, then hopped back home. There was a constant back-and-forth. We liked the cheap labor, they liked the pay, and no it wasn't drug-related. Then there were the nefarious immigrants, the ones looking to have anchor babies, etc.

                    By treating them all the same, he changed the risk calculation for the returners. Now it made sense for everybody to jump the border and try to stay. It didn't act as a deterrent, it just flooded the demand.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Interesting. Not a perspective I’d heard before

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Well, he didn't last long. LOL

                        Caleb Vitello, the acting head of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, is being reassigned amid internal frustrations over the agency's progress in carrying out President Trump's mass deportation goals, administration officials told CBS News on Friday.

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