Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
I think this does answer the question about whether Trump believes his own shit about tariffs.
As Scott Lincicome from Cato Institute says, if Canadian producers will pay the tariffs, why reduce the ones on energy to 10%?
As Scott Lincicome from Cato Institute says, if Canadian producers will pay the tariffs, why reduce the ones on energy to 10%?
One reason could be the fact that 69% of Canadian oil and gas energy stocks are held by Americans.
Am sure there are others
In the meantime here is an 11 minute BBC interview with Mark Carney, former Governor of the Bank of England and Bank of Canada and likely successor to Trudeau next month. This man is no fool and is not afraid to take on the WH bully:
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This will be interesting.
Complete destruction of trust for long term economic cooperation.
Trump saw it work with China, with the decoupling after tariffs and Covid supply chain issues.
Interesting that he’s using the same playbook on his “allies”
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Probably the best speech or national address Trudeau has made in his political career.
Quite a feat, the country is rallying around the Trudeau government on this.
To paraphrase Forrest Gump; And just like that, Canadians came to despise Donald Trump even more than Justin Trudeau.
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Quite a feat, the country is rallying around the Trudeau government on this.
Is there anything Trump can't do?
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This will be interesting.
Complete destruction of trust for long term economic cooperation.
Trump saw it work with China, with the decoupling after tariffs and Covid supply chain issues.
Interesting that he’s using the same playbook on his “allies”
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If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
The Brad
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
And Atlantic ports. There’s also Hudson Bay for six month’s of the year, maybe more with climate change and global warming.
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Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?
It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
And if Trump gets the Keystone XL built, that will mean more exports to world markets.
And what if he does but won’t be able to tie into the line we built to the border? Pipeline is useless without product to ship.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
-Cormac McCarthy -
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it though events may force his hand. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
As I mentioned in another thread. Trump has no compunction against pivoting and moving to a more market friendly position if he sees the tide turning against him…
He lacks the courage of his convictions at times. Feel free to make all the jokes that you would like out of that.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline... This Presidency, he can nuke the hurricanes with no one stopping him.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
His winning margin wasn't from the faithful, it was from swing voters who voted for a better economy. Maga is toast if this stuff all backfires in ways they feel.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal.
Autarky. An interesting and, for me at least, a disconcerting thought. The US would need unfettered sovereign access to a multitude of natural resources including fresh water to attain that goal.
Contrary to what John Bolton has said that Trump is incapable of a grand strategy, I cannot entirely rule out that a malevolent and imperialist design is what motivates Trump’s thinking.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
So, Trump is responsible for keeping USPS costs down?
