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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

    Control the helicopter traffic (or do away with it) and adequately staff the tower.

    This ain't rocket surgery.

    The helicopter traffic will not be going away along that stretch…

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    Jolly
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

    @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

    Control the helicopter traffic (or do away with it) and adequately staff the tower.

    This ain't rocket surgery.

    The helicopter traffic will not be going away along that stretch…

    I'm not familiar with the area, but a heliport is not as expensive a fix as expanding an airport. There's no place to move the helicopter traffic?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Copper
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      #142

      The FAA loves to make regulations, they will make some changes based on this event.

      But to be honest this event is so rare I'm not sure it should cause a lot of changes, of course we don't have the final report yet.

      The FAA requires that Air Traffic Controller (ATC) trainees be 30 years old or younger, max retirement age is 56.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

        @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

        Control the helicopter traffic (or do away with it) and adequately staff the tower.

        This ain't rocket surgery.

        The helicopter traffic will not be going away along that stretch…

        I'm not familiar with the area, but a heliport is not as expensive a fix as expanding an airport. There's no place to move the helicopter traffic?

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        LuFins Dad
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        #143

        @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

        @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

        Control the helicopter traffic (or do away with it) and adequately staff the tower.

        This ain't rocket surgery.

        The helicopter traffic will not be going away along that stretch…

        I'm not familiar with the area, but a heliport is not as expensive a fix as expanding an airport. There's no place to move the helicopter traffic?

        That heli traffic is there for a reason.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

          @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

          Control the helicopter traffic (or do away with it) and adequately staff the tower.

          This ain't rocket surgery.

          The helicopter traffic will not be going away along that stretch…

          I'm not familiar with the area, but a heliport is not as expensive a fix as expanding an airport. There's no place to move the helicopter traffic?

          That heli traffic is there for a reason.

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          #144

          @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

          That heli traffic is there for a reason.

          Yes, if you try to sneak up on the city in your Cessna by flying below radar down the Potomac from Cabin John, you will meet someone or something that will shoot you down.

          I heard this from a guy who put these facilities in place, and he would deny that he ever said a word about it.

          I heard this at least 10 years ago, so I'm not sure if it is still in place.

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          • CopperC Copper

            @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            That heli traffic is there for a reason.

            Yes, if you try to sneak up on the city in your Cessna by flying below radar down the Potomac from Cabin John, you will meet someone or something that will shoot you down.

            I heard this from a guy who put these facilities in place, and he would deny that he ever said a word about it.

            I heard this at least 10 years ago, so I'm not sure if it is still in place.

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            89th
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            #145

            @Copper said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

            That heli traffic is there for a reason.

            Yes, if you try to sneak up on the city in your Cessna by flying below radar down the Potomac from Cabin John, you will meet someone or something that will shoot you down.

            I heard this from a guy who put these facilities in place, and he would deny that he ever said a word about it.

            I heard this at least 10 years ago, so I'm not sure if it is still in place.

            Yeah gotta love the surface to air missile launchers off of Clara Barton parkway, Andrew AFB, etc. Fun to see...somewhat in plain sight. Part of Operation Noble Eagle I believe.

            This is a view from the road (I used to drive by every day). See something...?

            2a33670a-882f-4839-8ef8-cd608eeaba6c-image.png

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              The suit:

              https://nypost.com/2025/01/31/us-news/faa-embroiled-in-lawsuit-alleging-it-turned-away-1000-applicants-based-on-race/

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                LuFins Dad
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                #147

                That’s interesting.

                The Brad

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                  Horace
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                  The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                  Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @Copper said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                    That heli traffic is there for a reason.

                    Yes, if you try to sneak up on the city in your Cessna by flying below radar down the Potomac from Cabin John, you will meet someone or something that will shoot you down.

                    I heard this from a guy who put these facilities in place, and he would deny that he ever said a word about it.

                    I heard this at least 10 years ago, so I'm not sure if it is still in place.

                    Yeah gotta love the surface to air missile launchers off of Clara Barton parkway, Andrew AFB, etc. Fun to see...somewhat in plain sight. Part of Operation Noble Eagle I believe.

                    This is a view from the road (I used to drive by every day). See something...?

                    2a33670a-882f-4839-8ef8-cd608eeaba6c-image.png

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                    @89th said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                    See something...?

                    Aimed at commercial flights loaded with innocent bystanders.

                    Bystanders flying over a densely populated area.

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                      This was a day before the crash. Notice how “normalized” the helicopter CA (collision alert) are for the inbound planes. I’d imagine it’s been this way for a while and only due to alert helo pilots have they avoided crashing into a plane. There will be major helicopter route standards changed in DC I’m sure of it.

                      Link to video

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                        Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

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                        @Horace said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                        The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                        Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

                        Granted, Trump is a loose cannon, but what if the cannon was pointing in the right direction?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Horace said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                          The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                          Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

                          Granted, Trump is a loose cannon, but what if the cannon was pointing in the right direction?

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                          @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                          @Horace said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                          The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                          Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

                          Granted, Trump is a loose cannon, but what if the cannon was pointing in the right direction?

                          VDH has sufficient respect for Trump that he assumes Trump has some inside information to guide his judgment in blaming DEI. I hope VDH is right. He also notes that Trump risks being a blatant demagogue if he's wrong about that. I guess VDH is one person who might actually lose some respect for Trump over this, if DEI has nothing to do with it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            George K
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                            Sec Pete's failings:

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Copper
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                              #154

                              How could Mr. Biden have missed this?

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                How could Mr. Biden have missed this?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #155

                                @Copper said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                How could Mr. Biden have missed this?

                                In 2023, Biden was already compromised.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Copper said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                  How could Mr. Biden have missed this?

                                  In 2023, Biden was already compromised.

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                                  George K
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                                  @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                  In 2023, Biden was already compromised.

                                  @Jolly you misspelled "asleep".

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                    In 2023, Biden was already compromised.

                                    @Jolly you misspelled "asleep".

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    @George-K said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                    @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                    In 2023, Biden was already compromised.

                                    @Jolly you misspelled "asleep".

                                    You know, I'm not nearly as disappointed in Biden as I am the people around him. They placed power over doing what was right for the country.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Horace said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                      The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                                      Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

                                      Granted, Trump is a loose cannon, but what if the cannon was pointing in the right direction?

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                                      89th
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                                      @Jolly said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                      @Horace said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                      The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

                                      Anybody who claims to have trouble believing that, is lying. Or really ignorant.

                                      Granted, Trump is a loose cannon, but what if the cannon was pointing in the right direction?

                                      Is it a boomerang cannonball? Here’s something during Trump’s watch in 2019.

                                      https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-provides-aviation-careers-people-disabilities

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                                        89th
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                                        Obama did it too in 2013 like Trump in 2019.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          I posted the details of that yesterday in this thread.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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