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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #7

    On the merits it seems weird. Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico before the US was even founded.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Plus the US has the most gulf coastline... 1500 miles, compared to Mexico's 1100 miles. I can see it. Now if the USA takes over Canada or Greenland, that would have much more of an impact, mostly because I won't be living in the most northern state out of the lower 48.

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      @89th said in Gulf watch:

      Plus the US has the most gulf coastline... 1500 miles, compared to Mexico's 1100 miles.

      The first time I checked that (yesterday) with Chat GPT and Grok, I got the same answer.

      Yesterday, I started getting a different one.

      ChatGPT

      What is longer, the coastline of the us on the gulf o mexico or the coastline of mexico?

      The coastline of the U.S. on the Gulf of Mexico is shorter than the coastline of Mexico. Here’s a comparison:
      • U.S. Gulf of Mexico coastline: Approximately 1,631 miles (2,625 kilometers), spanning from Texas to Florida.
      • Mexico’s Gulf of Mexico coastline: Approximately 2,000 miles (3,219 kilometers), stretching from the U.S. border in the northeast (Tamaulipas) to the Yucatan Peninsula.

      So, Mexico has a longer Gulf coastline.

      Grok:

      The coastline of Mexico on the Gulf of Mexico is longer than that of the United States. According to various data sources, Mexico has approximately 2,758 km (1,714 miles) of coastline along the Gulf of Mexico, while the United States has around 2,600 km (1,615 miles). Additionally, other sources confirm that Mexico has a slightly longer coastline with 1,743 miles compared to the U.S.'s 1,700 miles.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        89th
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        I'm sure an official answer will come out when someone measures it again. From the eye, the US should have more... if anything for all the little deviations in the coastline in Florida and the Keys. Those add up. Trust me, in Minnesota, we are proud (besides Alaska) to have the most "coast line". If you include just Ocean and Lakes, we have more than California, we have more than Florida... LOL. If you include rivers, it's even better.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          On the merits it seems weird. Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico before the US was even founded.

          Doctor PhibesD Online
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #10

          @jon-nyc said in Gulf watch:

          On the merits it seems weird. Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico before the US was even founded.

          A lot of those rinky-dink foreign nations that Britain used to own renamed themselves and their cities in an attempt to regain some kind of national pride. I guess you chaps are attempting to do the same, although naming your seashore after some Italian bloke seems a bit backward.

          I also look forward to New York finally throwing off it's imperial past as per my previous suggestion.

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            We just refer to it as The Gulf.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              On the merits it seems weird. Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico before the US was even founded.

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              @jon-nyc said in Gulf watch:

              Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico

              Europeans?

              Maybe the Europeans who came by way of the Alaskan land bridge about 15,000 years ago.

              The name "Mexico" originates from the Nahuatl (Aztec) word "Mēxihco," which is believed to mean "the place of Mexi" or "the navel of the moon," referring to the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan's location on an island in Lake Texcoco, which was seen as the center of the world by the indigenous people; "Mexi" is thought to be related to the Aztec war god, Mexitli, who is associated with the moon.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                My guess is they’ll wait until the US Geological Survey officially changes the name.

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                @jon-nyc said in Gulf watch:

                My guess is they’ll wait until the US Geological Survey officially changes the name.

                Or possibly until America's more serious problems have all been solved. So, maybe 2026?

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jon-nyc said in Gulf watch:

                  My guess is they’ll wait until the US Geological Survey officially changes the name.

                  Or possibly until America's more serious problems have all been solved. So, maybe 2026?

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                  Renauda
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                  @Doctor-Phibes

                  😆

                  Elbows up!

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @jon-nyc said in Gulf watch:

                    Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico

                    Europeans?

                    Maybe the Europeans who came by way of the Alaskan land bridge about 15,000 years ago.

                    The name "Mexico" originates from the Nahuatl (Aztec) word "Mēxihco," which is believed to mean "the place of Mexi" or "the navel of the moon," referring to the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan's location on an island in Lake Texcoco, which was seen as the center of the world by the indigenous people; "Mexi" is thought to be related to the Aztec war god, Mexitli, who is associated with the moon.

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                    89th
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                    @Copper said in Gulf watch:

                    @jon-nyc said in Gulf watch:

                    Europeans named it the Gulf of Mexico

                    Europeans?

                    Maybe the Europeans who came by way of the Alaskan land bridge about 15,000 years ago.

                    The name "Mexico" originates from the Nahuatl (Aztec) word "Mēxihco," which is believed to mean "the place of Mexi" or "the navel of the moon," referring to the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan's location on an island in Lake Texcoco, which was seen as the center of the world by the indigenous people; "Mexi" is thought to be related to the Aztec war god, Mexitli, who is associated with the moon.

                    Nah, the Spaniards named it the Gulf of Mexico after they whooped up on the Aztecs but I guess felt bad enough to let them keep their name on the body of water.

                    Personally I'd rename it to Hurricane Alley.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      St. Petersburg, FL could be renamed New Leningrad.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #17

                        It’s Florida so just Leninsville.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          We have a national debt of x trillion dollars. The name of the Gulf is not a national priority.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            We have a national debt of x trillion dollars. The name of the Gulf is not a national priority.

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                            @Mik said in Gulf watch:

                            We have a national debt of x trillion dollars. The name of the Gulf is not a national priority.

                            I don't think renaming it, detracts from other priorities.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              89th
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                              Could kill two birds by selling the naming rights. For example, for $1 billion it could be Gulf of Pepsi.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @Mik said in Gulf watch:

                                We have a national debt of x trillion dollars. The name of the Gulf is not a national priority.

                                I don't think renaming it, detracts from other priorities.

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                                @Horace said in Gulf watch:

                                @Mik said in Gulf watch:

                                We have a national debt of x trillion dollars. The name of the Gulf is not a national priority.

                                I don't think renaming it, detracts from other priorities.

                                I think that is exactly what it is intended to do. Look over here! No, don't look over THERE!

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  Sure, food still costs a bloody fortune, but hey, I renamed something after AMERICA!

                                  I was only joking

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    So glad everyone is focused on this rather than the other stuff…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Renauda
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                                      #24

                                      Trump along with his discipleship are welcome to call the Gulf of Mexico whatever it wants or, as in this case, decrees. He ought not however claim the US being treated unfairly, when the rest of the world continues to refer to it as the Gulf of Mexico.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
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                                        Names change, it's ok.

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                                          I propose we rename the South China Sea the West Philippines Sea.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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