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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #14

    T - 44 minutes.

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • CopperC Online
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      Copper
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      #15

      About 30 minutes late according to this

      https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #16

        Mechazilla success!!!

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          Just remarkable. They make it look so easy!

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            They lost contact with Starship....

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              They lost contact with Starship....

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              @George-K said in New Glenn:

              They lost contact with Starship....

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
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                #20

                Wow. Spectacular breakup!

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                • CopperC Online
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                  Copper
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                  #21

                  Not a failure because they learn so much.

                  No, it is a failure.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      #23

                      ~20 flights apparently.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • CopperC Copper

                        Not a failure because they learn so much.

                        No, it is a failure.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #24

                        @Copper said in New Glenn:

                        Not a failure because they learn so much.

                        No, it is a failure.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          Very cool stuff. Makes it all the more amazing what the Apollo's did and the moon landing.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            Very cool stuff. Makes it all the more amazing what the Apollo's did and the moon landing.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #26

                            @taiwan_girl said in New Glenn:

                            Makes it all the more amazing what the Apollo's did and the moon landing.

                            Indeed. It was more than half a century ago.

                            But...the motivations were different. We were in a "space race." The goal of putting a human on the moon was the primary goal. It had to be done right - the first time. If you look at clips from "The Right Stuff," there's a whole sequence of US rockets in the early 60s blowing up. It would have been a national embarrassment if the Apollo missions had failed (look at Apollo 1!).

                            SpaceX's philosophy is different: "Let's blow 'em up and learn from the errors. It's less expensive to fail and learn than to spend millions perfecting things."

                            Consider the successes of Boeing in human space flight vs that of SpaceX.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              @George-K Agree. I was also thinking of the technology, etc. I think it was you(?) who educated me that the computer power in the Apollo was less than my current computer by a lot!!

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @George-K Agree. I was also thinking of the technology, etc. I think it was you(?) who educated me that the computer power in the Apollo was less than my current computer by a lot!!

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                                George K
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                                @taiwan_girl said in New Glenn:

                                the computer power in the Apollo


                                The computing power of the Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) used in the Apollo capsules can be described as follows:

                                • CPU: The AGC had a single 2.048 MHz (some sources cite 1.024 MHz due to the clock being divided by 2) RTL (Resistor-Transistor Logic) processor.
                                  Memory:
                                • ROM: It had 36 kilowords (about 72 KB) of core rope memory, which was non-volatile and used for storing the program code.
                                • RAM: There was 2 kilowords (about 4 KB) of magnetic-core memory for data storage.
                                • Word Size: The AGC used 16-bit words.
                                • Instructions: It had around 90 basic instructions.
                                • Performance: The speed was quite limited by today's standards; it could perform around 40,000 additions or 8,000 multiplications per second.
                                • Software: The software was written in assembly language, using a unique system called "Interpretive" for higher-level operations, which made the limited hardware more efficient by running compiled code.

                                To give a modern comparison, the Apollo Guidance Computer was roughly equivalent in processing power to the first generation of home computers in the late 1970s or early 1980s, like the Commodore 64, but with much less memory and without the benefit of modern microprocessor advancements. It was, however, incredibly advanced for its time given its reliability and role in space missions.

                                This computing power was sufficient to navigate to the Moon, perform mid-course corrections, and manage the lunar module's descent and ascent, all while being robust enough to handle the harsh environment of space travel.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @taiwan_girl said in New Glenn:

                                  Makes it all the more amazing what the Apollo's did and the moon landing.

                                  Indeed. It was more than half a century ago.

                                  But...the motivations were different. We were in a "space race." The goal of putting a human on the moon was the primary goal. It had to be done right - the first time. If you look at clips from "The Right Stuff," there's a whole sequence of US rockets in the early 60s blowing up. It would have been a national embarrassment if the Apollo missions had failed (look at Apollo 1!).

                                  SpaceX's philosophy is different: "Let's blow 'em up and learn from the errors. It's less expensive to fail and learn than to spend millions perfecting things."

                                  Consider the successes of Boeing in human space flight vs that of SpaceX.

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                                  @George-K said in New Glenn:

                                  @taiwan_girl
                                  If you look at clips from "The Right Stuff," there's a whole sequence of US rockets in the early 60s blowing up. It would have been a national embarrassment if the Apollo missions had failed (look at Apollo 1!).

                                  Good call about that movie. Similarly, and I've mentioned it a few times recently I know, the movie First Man is really "authentic" and you see some of the closer calls they had to deal with such as the first successful docking (Gemini 😎 but resulting near-disaster when it went into an uncontrolled roll. Very intense. And of course during the actual Apollo 11 moon landing let's not talk about how they were down to the last few seconds of fuel before touching ground.

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                                    I ordered this a few days ago: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0760366578?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

                                    It shipped yesterday. I'm hoping to see more detail on the hardware, built with natural intelligence.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      ~20 flights apparently.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by 89th
                                      #31

                                      @jon-nyc said in New Glenn:

                                      ~20 flights apparently.

                                      Air traffic audio.

                                      BTW don't let the screenshot fool you, this is mostly just audio (with some videos of the debris).

                                      Link to video

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        I ordered this a few days ago: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0760366578?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

                                        It shipped yesterday. I'm hoping to see more detail on the hardware, built with natural intelligence.

                                        89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
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                                        @Copper said in New Glenn:

                                        I ordered this a few days ago: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0760366578?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

                                        It shipped yesterday. I'm hoping to see more detail on the hardware, built with natural intelligence.

                                        Cool. I bought/downloaded an Apollo 11 simulator for the VR goggles. Should put me in the seat from launch to landing, I think, including needing to fly the lander?

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @Copper said in New Glenn:

                                          I ordered this a few days ago: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0760366578?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

                                          It shipped yesterday. I'm hoping to see more detail on the hardware, built with natural intelligence.

                                          Cool. I bought/downloaded an Apollo 11 simulator for the VR goggles. Should put me in the seat from launch to landing, I think, including needing to fly the lander?

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          @89th said in New Glenn:

                                          for the VR goggles

                                          Deets?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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