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Will TikTok Survive?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 16:31 last edited by
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    You were warned.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 16:33 last edited by jon-nyc
      #34

      China: “This isn’t a business, it’s a Psy-op. It has no value to us if we can’t control what your young people think”

      https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-preparing-us-shut-off-sunday-information-reports-2025-01-15/

      You were warned.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 17:10 last edited by kluurs
        #35

        Latest on Tik Tok...

        A fair number of Tik Tok users (several hundred thousand to date) have established accounts on the Chinese version of Tik Tok - to say FU to the US.

        Mark Cuban has offered to back a Tik Tok-ish app if it is based on BlueSky.

        Senator Markey is supposedly introducing legislation to delay implementation of the ban - to provide additional time for negotiation.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 17:34 last edited by jon-nyc
          #36

          I don’t think its Chinese version of TikTok I think it’s another app called Red Book (as in Mao’s little red book) but branded RedNote in English.

          You were warned.

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          • K kluurs
            15 Jan 2025, 17:10

            Latest on Tik Tok...

            A fair number of Tik Tok users (several hundred thousand to date) have established accounts on the Chinese version of Tik Tok - to say FU to the US.

            Mark Cuban has offered to back a Tik Tok-ish app if it is based on BlueSky.

            Senator Markey is supposedly introducing legislation to delay implementation of the ban - to provide additional time for negotiation.

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            89th
            wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 18:03 last edited by
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            @kluurs said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

            Mark Cuban has offered to back a Tik Tok-ish app if it is based on BlueSky.

            Like I said, and I'm sure most agree, Tik Tok will just be replaced by another similar app, hopefully US-based.

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            • J jon-nyc
              15 Jan 2025, 17:34

              I don’t think its Chinese version of TikTok I think it’s another app called Red Book (as in Mao’s little red book) but branded RedNote in English.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 18:16 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

              I don’t think its Chinese version of TikTok I think it’s another app called Red Book (as in Mao’s little red book) but called RedNote in English.

              I believe that you are right. In China, Tik Tok is called Douyin.

              https://www.douyin.com/discover

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 23:23 last edited by
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                Melissa Chen sums it up well. With a biblical reference.

                You were warned.

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                • K kluurs
                  15 Jan 2025, 17:10

                  Latest on Tik Tok...

                  A fair number of Tik Tok users (several hundred thousand to date) have established accounts on the Chinese version of Tik Tok - to say FU to the US.

                  Mark Cuban has offered to back a Tik Tok-ish app if it is based on BlueSky.

                  Senator Markey is supposedly introducing legislation to delay implementation of the ban - to provide additional time for negotiation.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 23:25 last edited by
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                  @kluurs said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                  Senator Markey is supposedly introducing legislation to delay implementation of the ban - to provide additional time for negotiation.

                  He voted for the bill. Looks like he wants it both ways.

                  You were warned.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 23:28 last edited by kluurs
                    #41

                    Not yet confirmed, but one Tik Tok influencer has said that as a result of the millions of US IP addresses, the Chinese have moved all US based IP addresses to separate servers. This allegedly has resulted in many US Chinese to lose the ability to share with their Chinese relatives. This same influencer is saying that there have been some reports of security issues - a couple of people report their phones were hacked including passwords.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      15 Jan 2025, 23:25

                      @kluurs said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                      Senator Markey is supposedly introducing legislation to delay implementation of the ban - to provide additional time for negotiation.

                      He voted for the bill. Looks like he wants it both ways.

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 23:30 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                      @kluurs said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                      Senator Markey is supposedly introducing legislation to delay implementation of the ban - to provide additional time for negotiation.

                      He voted for the bill. Looks like he wants it both ways.

                      He's not the only one. Trump urged it's banning before he didn't. There are a few members of congress on Tik Tok - who bounce which ever way seems most compelling.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 23:37 last edited by jon-nyc
                        #43

                        Yes but Trump's flip-flop was purchased by major ByteDance investor Jeff Yass.

                        This senator is just afraid of some blowback. Rather, he wants something to point to in his next election. They had 270 days to negotiate.

                        You were warned.

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                          kluurs
                          wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 23:43 last edited by
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                          Jeff Jackson of North Carolina became a bit of a Tik Tok celebrity - then voted for the ban - which turned him into the Lex Luther of Tik Tok.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 07:56 last edited by
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                            You were warned.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 07:57 last edited by
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                              You were warned.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 13:44 last edited by
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                                You were warned.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 14:56 last edited by
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                                  I'm sure that cost a pretty penny.

                                  And other valuable consideration.

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                                    16 Jan 2025, 13:44

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 15:18 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc Aye Yai Yai!

                                    @Copper said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                                    I'm sure that cost a pretty penny.

                                    And other valuable consideration.

                                    Exactly. Glad to see that President Trump is willing to stand up to China (and other dictators.)

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 16 Jan 2025, 19:04 last edited by
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                                      Who’s censoring whom?

                                      You were warned.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 17 Jan 2025, 15:39 last edited by
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                                        SCOTUS: Ban can proceed.

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/17/politics/tiktok-ban-supreme-court/index.html


                                        The Supreme Court ruled Friday that a controversial ban on TikTok may take effect this weekend, rejecting an appeal from the popular app’s owners that claimed the ban violated the First Amendment.

                                        The court handed down an unsigned opinion and there were no noted dissents.

                                        The decision, which followed warnings from the Biden administration that the app posed a “grave” national security threat because of its ties to China, will allow the ban to start Sunday. But there are a lot of lingering questions about how the ban would work in practice because there’s no precedent for the US government blocking a major social media platform. And how exactly the government would enforce it remains unclear.

                                        Americans may lose access to TikTok starting on Sunday, when a sell-or-ban law is set to take effect.

                                        In its opinion, the Supreme Court acknowledged that for 170 million Americans TikTok offers “a distinctive and expansive outlet for expression, means of engagement, and source of community.”

                                        But the court said, Congress was focused on national security concerns and that, the court said, was a deciding factor in how it weighed the case.

                                        “Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary to address its well-supported national security concerns regarding TikTok’s data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary,” the court wrote.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 17 Jan 2025, 15:50 last edited by
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                                          But there are a lot of lingering questions about how the ban would work in practice because there’s no precedent for the US government blocking a major social media platform. And how exactly the government would enforce it remains unclear.

                                          Sloppy ass reporting. There is no ban.

                                          But implementation is trivial, probably 10s each by an administrator at Apple and another at Google. And a half a minute each at major internet providers.

                                          Enforcement won't be a problem because there are very few players that need to act and the financial incentives are tremendous.

                                          Our only concern is if we end up with a president sympathetic to the CCP controlling the main news source of young Americans. But that could never happen. Right? Right??

                                          You were warned.

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