Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:20 last edited by
Harris declines to invite Vance for courtesy visit
Vice President Kamala Harris has not extended an invitation for a formal sit-down or tour, multiple Democratic and Republican sources told CBS News.
In November, Usha Vance, via intermediaries, reached out to staff for the home's current occupants, Harris and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff, seeking details including what they would need to childproof it. Ewan, Vivek and Mirabel Vance are all under the age of eight.
The questions were initially rebuffed by a Harris political appointee. But there has since been communication between the Vance team and Navy aides who oversee the residence.
Before Christmas, Navy officials provided an overview of the house to discuss the layout of the residence, logistics and practicalities of the move-in, and to help answer any questions the Vances had, a person familiar with the call said.
Usha Vance spoke with Emhoff for about 40 minutes last week, sources said. Harris sources said that arrangements are underway to accommodate the Vance children.
Spokespeople for Vance and Harris declined to comment.
But people close to Harris say she was never afforded an opportunity to visit the home before she was sworn in in 2021. However, she took office during the COVID outbreak, just after the Capitol riot — and Donald Trump had refused to admit he had been defeated in the election.
Advisers to then-Vice President Mike Pence dispute that an invitation was never offered. They say he quietly gave Harris and Emhoff a chance to visit in the waning days of the Trump administration. The invitation came discreetly because Trump resisted accommodating the incoming administration.
No formal sit-down between Pence and Harris ever took place, Democratic and Republican sources said.
People close to Harris defended her decision not to invite Vance to visit, a tradition that was broken during the Trump-Pence administration. Harris' team has been focused on an overseas trip that was canceled and on the California wildfires.
In 2016, then-Vice President Biden and his wife Jill hosted the Pences at the Northwest Washington residence not long after the election.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:49 last edited by
It is petty. The fact that she’s following Trumps lead is no excuse. She should be better than that if only to make a point.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 20:09 last edited by
Trump is her master.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 20:14 last edited by
Living rent-free...
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It is petty. The fact that she’s following Trumps lead is no excuse. She should be better than that if only to make a point.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 21:43 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
It is petty. The fact that she’s following Trumps lead is no excuse. She should be better than that if only to make a point.
Indeed. It seems we are losing all civility.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 22:03 last edited by Renauda
I don’t see a problem with having them over so long as they remove their street shoes at the door. Preferably, the back door.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 22:04 last edited by
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/14/politics/michelle-obama-trump-inauguration/index.html
Former first lady Michelle Obama will not attend Donald Trump’s inauguration next week, her office said Tuesday, without providing an explanation for her decision.
“Former President Barack Obama is confirmed to attend the 60th Inaugural Ceremonies. Former First Lady Michelle Obama will not attend the upcoming inauguration,” a statement from the Office of Barack and Michelle Obama said.
The decision to forgo attendance at Trump’s formal swearing-in is a break with tradition for the ceremony, in which former presidents and their wives typically participate. Former President George W. Bush and Laura Bush will attend the inauguration, his office said, and sources familiar told CNN that former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton also will be there.
Michelle Obama also was not in attendance at a memorial service last week for former President Jimmy Carter, remaining instead in Hawaii. Former President Barack Obama attended the service at the National Cathedral in Washington, sitting next to Trump and engaging in animated conversation with him as the program was getting underway.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 22:31 last edited by
Big Mike has a mean streak...
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 22:37 last edited by
Again, when they go low you go high. Oh wait….
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 23:28 last edited by
When Trump did it, it was because he genuinely believed the election was stolen, and was mortified that he would not be able to serve the country he loves more than life itself.
When Michelle does it, she's mean and petty.
Does that about cover it?
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 23:31 last edited by
George should have just reactivated the thread he started four years ago calling Trump bitter and petty for not doing any of the ceremony around inauguration.
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When Trump did it, it was because he genuinely believed the election was stolen, and was mortified that he would not be able to serve the country he loves more than life itself.
When Michelle does it, she's mean and petty.
Does that about cover it?
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 23:33 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
When Trump did it, it was because he genuinely believed the election was stolen
John Adams didn't attend Jefferson's inauguration.
But,
I didn't condone his behavior in that regard - in fact, I don't condone his behavior in many regards.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 23:38 last edited by Copper
https://www.whitehousehistory.org/notably-absent-presidential-no-shows-on-inauguration-day
John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, Andrew Johnson, and Donald Trump – failed to attend the Inaugurations of their successors, while two more presidents – Woodrow Wilson and Richard Nixon – did not participate for other reasons.
What about Jack Kennedy? I guess he was on the plane.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 23:38 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
Again, when they go low you go high. Oh wait….
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
When Trump did it, it was because he genuinely believed the election was stolen
John Adams didn't attend Jefferson's inauguration.
But,
I didn't condone his behavior in that regard - in fact, I don't condone his behavior in many regards.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 23:49 last edited by@George-K said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
When Trump did it, it was because he genuinely believed the election was stolen
John Adams didn't attend Jefferson's inauguration.
But,
I didn't condone his behavior in that regard - in fact, I don't condone his behavior in many regards.
Right, and clearly Kamala is being a bit petty.
I would however humbly suggest that any less-than-dignified behaviour the current administration is demonstrating pales into insignificance compared with the pathetic series of childish tantrums we all had to put up with four years ago, and which continued for quite some time afterwards. Indeed, I'm not wholly convinced they ever really ended.
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@George-K said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
When Trump did it, it was because he genuinely believed the election was stolen
John Adams didn't attend Jefferson's inauguration.
But,
I didn't condone his behavior in that regard - in fact, I don't condone his behavior in many regards.
Right, and clearly Kamala is being a bit petty.
I would however humbly suggest that any less-than-dignified behaviour the current administration is demonstrating pales into insignificance compared with the pathetic series of childish tantrums we all had to put up with four years ago, and which continued for quite some time afterwards. Indeed, I'm not wholly convinced they ever really ended.
wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 00:34 last edited by George K@Doctor-Phibes said in Not bitter or petty. Nope, not at all.:
which continued for quite some time afterwards
The enmity between Adams and Jefferson was legendary, and lasted for years after Jefferson left office. Of course, they reconciled, much like Obama and Trump seem to have.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 00:36 last edited by
These things used to be so much more civilized. Why, I remember when the worst thing that could happen is having the outgoing administration strip the Whitehouse of artwork, silver, and other valuables while the staff damaged and ruined hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment. Good times!
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 03:22 last edited by Renauda
Indeed, looting, vandalism and mischief are all far more civilized ways of flipping the bird than simply turning your back on the pompous protocol and decorum that acknowledges and celebrates an undeserving and narcissistic putz.