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The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #44

    City Journal (Manhattan Institute) article worth the read.

    “A recent analysis by my colleagues at the Property and Environment Research Center underscores just how cumbersome NEPA-related delays can be for the projects most needed to reduce fire risks. On average, it takes 3.6 years to begin a mechanical thinning project and 4.7 years to implement a prescribed burn after the U.S. Forest Service initiates the environmental review process. For large projects requiring environmental impact statements, the timeline stretches even longer, averaging 5.3 years for mechanical treatments and 7.2 years for prescribed burns.

    https://www.city-journal.org/article/la-wildfires-forest-management-regulatory-reform

    You were warned.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #45

      Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

      My favorite Jesse Jackson term... The paralysis of analysis.

      Sums things up in four words.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

        My favorite Jesse Jackson term... The paralysis of analysis.

        Sums things up in four words.

        jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nyc
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        #46

        @Jolly said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

        Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

        I’m guessing you’re unfamiliar with both the Manhattan Institute and the City Journal.

        You were warned.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #47

          Here’s your broken clock. You might recognize some names.

          https://manhattan.institute/scholars

          You were warned.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Here’s your broken clock. You might recognize some names.

            https://manhattan.institute/scholars

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            Jolly
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            #48

            @jon-nyc said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

            Here’s your broken clock. You might recognize some names.

            https://manhattan.institute/scholars

            Recognize some of them. But I knew they were mostly conservatives, since most of the women are attractive.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @jon-nyc said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

              Here’s your broken clock. You might recognize some names.

              https://manhattan.institute/scholars

              Recognize some of them. But I knew they were mostly conservatives, since most of the women are attractive.

              CopperC Online
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              Copper
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              #49

              @Jolly said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

              Recognize some of them.

              Did the other kids ever make fun of him in school?

              Be more careful when you name your child.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
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                #50

                @George

                I think Newsom did too. They might be telling half-truths. Like the existing reservoirs were in fact full but the additional ones the state was supposed to build and fill never happened.

                You were warned.

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                • George KG George K

                  I saw a story that firefighters and equipment are leaving Oregon to help out in California.

                  https://www.opb.org/article/2025/01/08/oregon-sending-crews-help-battle-los-angeles-area-wildfires/

                  However, an unverified claim states until they are certified by the DOT in Sacramento, they can't proceed. Story doesn't address that.

                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #51

                  @George-K said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

                  I saw a story that firefighters and equipment are leaving Oregon to help out in California.

                  https://www.opb.org/article/2025/01/08/oregon-sending-crews-help-battle-los-angeles-area-wildfires/

                  However, an unverified claim states until they are certified by the DOT in Sacramento, they can't proceed. Story doesn't address that.

                  You were warned.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #52

                    Compare and contrast DeSantis and the management of multiple hurricanes during his time as Governor with Newsome’s management of the fire…

                    The Brad

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #53

                      Though in fairness, the hurricanes have been Cat 3s and 4s, similar to most years in FL. These LA fires are pretty historic in their scope. Also you see the hurricanes coming with advanced notice including a good idea of their path.

                      Not that I disagree with the point that CA sucks at this. But still its not a fair comparison.

                      You were warned.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #54

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
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                          https://freebeacon.com/california/two-months-before-deadly-blazes-la-fire-chief-said-she-needed-more-firefighters-then-karen-basss-admin-scrubbed-the-memo/

                          Los Angeles fire chief Kristin Crowley warned city officials in November that her department had about half as many firefighters as it needed. When deadly wildfires struck the city two months later, Mayor Karen Bass's administration pulled Crowley's memo from its website.

                          Crowley wrote to the city's fire commissioners—a five-person board appointed by Bass—on Nov. 18 and asked them to transmit the message to Bass and the city council. The fire department's size, she said, hadn't increased in decades despite significant population growth.

                          "In many ways, the current staffing, deployment model, and size of the LAFD have not changed since the 1960s," wrote Crowley, who also complained that a spike in emergency calls and a shortage of fire stations had led to longer response times. In 2022, Crowley said, 61 percent of the department's firefighters failed to meet the 4-minute first response time, a national firefighting standard. The National Fire Protection Association, meanwhile, recommends that cities like Los Angeles employ some 1.51 to 1.81 firefighters per 1,000 residents. But Los Angeles, Crowley wrote, only staffs 0.91 firefighters per 1,000 people.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            No doubt it’s a problem generally but I wonder if the fast exhaustion of water made that irrelevant. In other words maybe water was the limiting factor rather than manpower.

                            You were warned.

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                            • CopperC Online
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                              Copper
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                              Help has arrived.

                              https://babylonbee.com/news/los-angeles-saved-after-meghan-markle-arrives-to-stand-around-wearing-baseball-cap?utm_source=The Babylon Bee Newsletter&utm_medium=email

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
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                                #58

                                I get that it’s comedy but she lives there.

                                True story - she has a Netflix series coming up that features the beauty and culture of SoCal. She’s asked them to postpone the launch.

                                You were warned.

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
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                                  Is it called New Glenn? (rimshot)

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                                  • George KG George K

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                                    @George-K said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

                                    Is Newsom trying out for a sign language interpreter job? I've never see someone use their hands so much when speaking.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @George-K said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

                                      Is Newsom trying out for a sign language interpreter job? I've never see someone use their hands so much when speaking.

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                                      @89th said in The ‘man did California authorities screw the pooch’ thread:

                                      I've never see someone use their hands so much when speaking.

                                      Where tf have you been?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          I saw a story that Biden has approved a $777 one-time disbursement to the victims.

                                          Sweet!

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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