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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 03:07 last edited by
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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      George K
      wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 12:48 last edited by
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      https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20414/france-skyrocketing-threat

      49% of French Muslims want Catholics to convert to Islam, and that 36% percent want churches to be transformed into mosques... The survey also discloses that 25% of French Muslims said that the word "France" is a word they reject.

      France is a country where more than 70% of prison inmates are Muslim. According to reports, the crime rate among the Muslim population is high.... There are also more than two hundred rapes every day in France, most perpetrated by Muslim men who entered France illegally.

      17% of French Muslims admit that they hate Jews. 39% say they have a bad, or very bad, opinion of Judaism.

      Much more at the link.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 13:17 last edited by
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        Loved the comment about you'll pay for the rope that chokes you. He's spot on.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • G George K
          7 Jan 2025, 12:48

          https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20414/france-skyrocketing-threat

          49% of French Muslims want Catholics to convert to Islam, and that 36% percent want churches to be transformed into mosques... The survey also discloses that 25% of French Muslims said that the word "France" is a word they reject.

          France is a country where more than 70% of prison inmates are Muslim. According to reports, the crime rate among the Muslim population is high.... There are also more than two hundred rapes every day in France, most perpetrated by Muslim men who entered France illegally.

          17% of French Muslims admit that they hate Jews. 39% say they have a bad, or very bad, opinion of Judaism.

          Much more at the link.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 13:22 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Hitchens warned us:

          https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20414/france-skyrocketing-threat

          49% of French Muslims want Catholics to convert to Islam,

          Well, yeah… Frankly, that number’s low. 100%?of the Muslims should want Catholics and Christians to convert, just like 100% of Christians should want the Muslims to convert to Christianity. It’s in the tenants of their religions. Frankly, it’s the ones that don’t that you should find threatening.

          Now, the rest of this is very problematic…

          and that 36% percent want churches to be transformed into mosques... The survey also discloses that 25% of French Muslims said that the word "France" is a word they reject.

          France is a country where more than 70% of prison inmates are Muslim. According to reports, the crime rate among the Muslim population is high.... There are also more than two hundred rapes every day in France, most perpetrated by Muslim men who entered France illegally.

          17% of French Muslims admit that they hate Jews. 39% say they have a bad, or very bad, opinion of Judaism.

          Much more at the link.

          The Brad

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          • L LuFins Dad
            7 Jan 2025, 13:22

            @George-K said in Hitchens warned us:

            https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20414/france-skyrocketing-threat

            49% of French Muslims want Catholics to convert to Islam,

            Well, yeah… Frankly, that number’s low. 100%?of the Muslims should want Catholics and Christians to convert, just like 100% of Christians should want the Muslims to convert to Christianity. It’s in the tenants of their religions. Frankly, it’s the ones that don’t that you should find threatening.

            Now, the rest of this is very problematic…

            and that 36% percent want churches to be transformed into mosques... The survey also discloses that 25% of French Muslims said that the word "France" is a word they reject.

            France is a country where more than 70% of prison inmates are Muslim. According to reports, the crime rate among the Muslim population is high.... There are also more than two hundred rapes every day in France, most perpetrated by Muslim men who entered France illegally.

            17% of French Muslims admit that they hate Jews. 39% say they have a bad, or very bad, opinion of Judaism.

            Much more at the link.

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            George K
            wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 13:33 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Hitchens warned us:

            100%?of the Muslims should want Catholics and Christians to convert, just like 100% of Christians should want the Muslims to convert to Christianity.

            Of course. But in the case of Mohammedans, it's either convert or pay a tax, you dhimmi.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              7 Jan 2025, 13:22

              @George-K said in Hitchens warned us:

              https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20414/france-skyrocketing-threat

              49% of French Muslims want Catholics to convert to Islam,

              Well, yeah… Frankly, that number’s low. 100%?of the Muslims should want Catholics and Christians to convert, just like 100% of Christians should want the Muslims to convert to Christianity. It’s in the tenants of their religions. Frankly, it’s the ones that don’t that you should find threatening.

              Now, the rest of this is very problematic…

              and that 36% percent want churches to be transformed into mosques... The survey also discloses that 25% of French Muslims said that the word "France" is a word they reject.

              France is a country where more than 70% of prison inmates are Muslim. According to reports, the crime rate among the Muslim population is high.... There are also more than two hundred rapes every day in France, most perpetrated by Muslim men who entered France illegally.

              17% of French Muslims admit that they hate Jews. 39% say they have a bad, or very bad, opinion of Judaism.

              Much more at the link.

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              89th
              wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 13:40 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad Agree, I was going to make the same point. Christians of course want others to be Christian. It's out of love. Out of a belief that this is what God wants, and for humans to be saved and go to Heaven. Like you said, there are different tactics. I grew up in a church that showed this by welcoming the poor, traveling to build an orphanage in Mexico (my first trip abroad), and so forth. Convert out of love, by love.

              It might be the accent, but I'm usually enthralled when Hitchens is making a point. He has a great structure with how he builds and conveys his point.

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                7 Jan 2025, 13:40

                @LuFins-Dad Agree, I was going to make the same point. Christians of course want others to be Christian. It's out of love. Out of a belief that this is what God wants, and for humans to be saved and go to Heaven. Like you said, there are different tactics. I grew up in a church that showed this by welcoming the poor, traveling to build an orphanage in Mexico (my first trip abroad), and so forth. Convert out of love, by love.

                It might be the accent, but I'm usually enthralled when Hitchens is making a point. He has a great structure with how he builds and conveys his point.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 14:22 last edited by
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                @89th said in Hitchens warned us:

                @LuFins-Dad Agree, I was going to make the same point. Christians of course want others to be Christian. It's out of love. Out of a belief that this is what God wants, and for humans to be saved and go to Heaven.

                I'm not sure that's how Hitchens would have described it

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  7 Jan 2025, 14:22

                  @89th said in Hitchens warned us:

                  @LuFins-Dad Agree, I was going to make the same point. Christians of course want others to be Christian. It's out of love. Out of a belief that this is what God wants, and for humans to be saved and go to Heaven.

                  I'm not sure that's how Hitchens would have described it

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                  George K
                  wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 14:30 last edited by George K a day from now
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Hitchens warned us:

                  I'm not sure that's how Hitchens would have described it

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 14:31 last edited by
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                    Listen to his talk on Mother Theresa - very entertaining.

                    I was only joking

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      7 Jan 2025, 14:31

                      Listen to his talk on Mother Theresa - very entertaining.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 14:33 last edited by
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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hitchens warned us:

                      Listen to his talk on Mother Theresa - very entertaining.

                      I'd forgotten about that one!

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        7 Jan 2025, 14:33

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hitchens warned us:

                        Listen to his talk on Mother Theresa - very entertaining.

                        I'd forgotten about that one!

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 14:47 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Hitchens warned us:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hitchens warned us:

                        Listen to his talk on Mother Theresa - very entertaining.

                        I'd forgotten about that one!

                        It's funny, I was coincidentally just listening to a BBC podcast about him this morning on my drive to work, and that popped up. His disliked her almost as much as he did the Clintons.

                        I was only joking

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 7 Jan 2025, 16:53 last edited by
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                          But he hated Kissinger even more.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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