10 Killed in NOLA
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I wonder in how many of the last, say, 40 years would you have used such logic - ‘but crimes were still committed’ - to define failure in the FBI or any other law enforcement body.
Though I admit when I get a ticket I’m tempted to say the same thing to a cop ‘why are you ticketing me instead of….’ But I know better than to say it.
You were warned.
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By the way, though not the argument they use, Jolly’s argument would justify the failed AGs in SFO etc. Why prosecute shoplifting when there are murders to solve?
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I wonder in how many of the last, say, 40 years would you have used such logic - ‘but crimes were still committed’ - to define failure in the FBI or any other law enforcement body.
Though I admit when I get a ticket I’m tempted to say the same thing to a cop ‘why are you ticketing me instead of….’ But I know better than to say it.
@jon-nyc said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
I wonder in how many of the last, say, 40 years would you have used such logic - ‘but crimes were still committed’ - to define failure in the FBI or any other law enforcement body.
Though I admit when I get a ticket I’m tempted to say the same thing to a cop ‘why are you ticketing me instead of….’ But I know better than to say it.
Except that’s not what most of us are saying. We’re saying:
Why is the FBI focusing on investigating parents dissenting with policy at school board meetings?
Why is the FBI laying plans of entrapment to try and get people to kidnap political figures?
Why is the FBI trying to incite violence at rallies?
And why is the FBI Director repeating lies that white supremacists are the largest terror threat to this nation and have killed the most people over the last 10 years,
We’re not bitching about them prosecuting shoplifters instead of focusing on murders. Were bitching about them following people arounfd the store and occasionally dropping items into their purse. We’re botching about them using armored vehicles, flashbang grenades, and shooting out security cameras of elderly philanthropists at 3AM over white collar crimes.
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@89th said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
You see it as an exhibition. I see it as the judicial process regardless if it’s an elected official.
No, I've got some wisdom and common sense. I know that resources are finite. I also know murder is a more serious crime than trespassing or even assaulting a police officer.
With all the cameras in the Capitol building and the abundance of evidence, Federal law enforcement should have had J6 sorted out in a couple of months worth of investigation. But no, they're still working cases almost four years down the line, for what?
Some unknown idiot who put his feet on Pelosi's desk?
I want you to drop by one of the multiple funerals from the murders in New Orleans and explain to me why you had one fucking junior G-man chasing trespassers from an event four years previous and you can't keep the damn country safe from radicalized Muslim terrorists?
You can't prevent two assassination attempts on a major party POTUS nominee?
You can't stop illegal aliens from entering the country and murdering U.S. citizens?
Remind me again how important the FBI is again...
@Jolly said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
I want you to drop by one of the multiple funerals from the murders in New Orleans and explain to me why you had one fucking junior G-man chasing trespassers from an event four years previous and you can't keep the damn country safe from radicalized Muslim terrorists?
It is a near guarantee this would've still happened had the FBI not been involved with investigating the Capitol attack or other crimes and threats you deem not worthy of their time.
The FBI stops hundreds of lone wolves every year that you'll never hear of. It's remarkable how many are stopped given the "lone" aspect of the perpetrator's goals and tactics.
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@Jolly said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
I want you to drop by one of the multiple funerals from the murders in New Orleans and explain to me why you had one fucking junior G-man chasing trespassers from an event four years previous and you can't keep the damn country safe from radicalized Muslim terrorists?
It is a near guarantee this would've still happened had the FBI not been involved with investigating the Capitol attack or other crimes and threats you deem not worthy of their time.
The FBI stops hundreds of lone wolves every year that you'll never hear of. It's remarkable how many are stopped given the "lone" aspect of the perpetrator's goals and tactics.
@89th said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
@Jolly said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
I want you to drop by one of the multiple funerals from the murders in New Orleans and explain to me why you had one fucking junior G-man chasing trespassers from an event four years previous and you can't keep the damn country safe from radicalized Muslim terrorists?
It is a near guarantee this would've still happened had the FBI not been involved with investigating the Capitol attack or other crimes and threats you deem not worthy of their time.
The FBI stops hundreds of lone wolves every year that you'll never hear of. It's remarkable how many are stopped given the "lone" aspect of the perpetrator's goals and tactics.
Yeah, but they didn't stop this one, and he doesn't look like a loan wolf.
Address the point...In a world of finite resources, why is the FBI focused on vengeance and "sending a message" for minor crimes, four years after an event? Why are they not allocating the resources they have, trying to keep the American public safe?
There are now 20 or more states https://www.newsweek.com/tren-de-aragua-locations-map-tennessee-colorado-1988953 with active
Tren de Aragua gangs.Isn't the FBI tasked with fighting interstate crime, sex trafficking and violence?
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Are they not?
The FBI can multitask, you know. Man you probably think I work for the FBI at this point LOL.
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Are they not?
The FBI can multitask, you know. Man you probably think I work for the FBI at this point LOL.
@89th said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
Are they not?
The FBI can multitask, you know. Man you probably think I work for the FBI at this point LOL.
It would be better if you did. Rather, your friends work for the FBI, and you get all the best parts of the narratives they tell you, and that they probably believe themselves. But then I also know these discussions are purely rhetorical. One person wants to say true negative things about something, the other person wants to say true positive things about something, they say them to each other, and somehow they believe they have a factual disagreement. They don't. They rarely do. They have a disagreement about the valence of the things they want to say. They have a disagreement about what they would like their audience to remember.
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Are they not?
The FBI can multitask, you know. Man you probably think I work for the FBI at this point LOL.
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Word is that the terrorist had, according to the FBI, "unusual" explosives in his car.
Federal investigators examining the attack say that Jabbar used a very rare explosive compound in the two devices, two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the matter told NBC News.
Authorities are investigating how Jabbar acquired the knowledge to create this homemade explosive, the officials said.
Those officials say that the explosive has never been used in a U.S. terror attack or incident, nor in any European terror attack. A key question for investigators is how Jabbar learned about the compound and how he managed to produce it.
Where did he get it? It's not like run-of-the-mill explosives you can find instruction for on YouTUbe.
Also, they're sill not sure what method was used to burn the AirBNB in which he was stying.
ATF agents on Thursday scoured a St. Roch short-term rental where authorities say a Texas man stayed before he ran down dozens of revelers on Bourbon Street early Wednesday — a home that erupted in flames two hours later.
Joshua Jackson, ATF special agent in charge, said Thursday that a timing device or pressure cooker could explain the delay in the reported fire after police shot and killed Shamsud-Din Jabbar. Authorities say he'd just killed 14 people and wounded at least 35 others in what the FBI has called an act of terrorism.
"The working theory now is that the fire started after Jabbar was already deceased,” Jackson said. “There are a lot of ways that could happen. You could have a timed device. ... You could also have pressure cookers, put on top of a stove, filled with gasoline. There are a lot of ways to do it, and that is why the ATF tactical response team is here.”
If he knew (he probably did) that this would be his last "mission," why burn down the place you were staying, to hide incriminating evidence pointing to you? Or to hide evidence pointing to someone else?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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No but like I said before, the attack would’ve still happened even if the FBI wasn’t involved in the other investigations mentioned earlier.
@89th said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
No but like I said before, the attack would’ve still happened even if the FBI wasn’t involved in the other investigations mentioned earlier.
Sorry, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.
You don't know that the FBI could not have prevented the attack, especially since the guy was flagged by the Army for his behavior.
Maybe the agent rummaging through Melania's panties could have saved 15 lives in New Orleans, if he wasn't tasked to perform in political theater...
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Word is that the terrorist had, according to the FBI, "unusual" explosives in his car.
Federal investigators examining the attack say that Jabbar used a very rare explosive compound in the two devices, two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the matter told NBC News.
Authorities are investigating how Jabbar acquired the knowledge to create this homemade explosive, the officials said.
Those officials say that the explosive has never been used in a U.S. terror attack or incident, nor in any European terror attack. A key question for investigators is how Jabbar learned about the compound and how he managed to produce it.
Where did he get it? It's not like run-of-the-mill explosives you can find instruction for on YouTUbe.
Also, they're sill not sure what method was used to burn the AirBNB in which he was stying.
ATF agents on Thursday scoured a St. Roch short-term rental where authorities say a Texas man stayed before he ran down dozens of revelers on Bourbon Street early Wednesday — a home that erupted in flames two hours later.
Joshua Jackson, ATF special agent in charge, said Thursday that a timing device or pressure cooker could explain the delay in the reported fire after police shot and killed Shamsud-Din Jabbar. Authorities say he'd just killed 14 people and wounded at least 35 others in what the FBI has called an act of terrorism.
"The working theory now is that the fire started after Jabbar was already deceased,” Jackson said. “There are a lot of ways that could happen. You could have a timed device. ... You could also have pressure cookers, put on top of a stove, filled with gasoline. There are a lot of ways to do it, and that is why the ATF tactical response team is here.”
If he knew (he probably did) that this would be his last "mission," why burn down the place you were staying, to hide incriminating evidence pointing to you? Or to hide evidence pointing to someone else?
@George-K said in 10 Killed in NOLA:
Word is that the terrorist had, according to the FBI, "unusual" explosives in his car.
