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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    ...take it."

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    Leaving Union Station in Chicago.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Interesting. Wonder if there are a maximum and a minimum turning radii that trains and train tracks must design within.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Min radius zero

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          lol @Copper

          But @Axtremus of course there is. The wheels have to stay on the tracks after all. You could calculate the minimum turning radius if you knew the track guage and a few measurements on the wheel set

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Interesting. Wonder if there are a maximum and a minimum turning radii that trains and train tracks must design within.

            George KG Offline
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            @Axtremus said in "When you find a fork in the road...:

            Interesting. Wonder if there are a maximum and a minimum turning radii that trains and train tracks must design within.

            General Guidelines:
            1. High-Speed Rail:
            • Radius: 3,500 to 7,000 meters (11,500 to 23,000 feet) or more.
            • Reason: High-speed trains require gentle curves to maintain stability and passenger comfort.
            2. Conventional Passenger Trains:
            • Radius: 400 to 1,200 meters (1,300 to 3,900 feet).
            • Reason: Balances speed and track construction constraints.
            3. Freight Trains:
            • Radius: 150 to 400 meters (500 to 1,300 feet), depending on the train’s length and load.
            • Reason: Freight trains can handle tighter curves at lower speeds but require more lateral clearance due to longer cars.
            4. Urban and Light Rail:
            • Radius: 15 to 100 meters (50 to 330 feet).
            • Reason: Tight curves are common in urban areas to navigate city streets or tunnels.

            Factors Influencing Minimum Radius:
            1. Speed: Higher speeds require larger radii to reduce lateral forces and ensure passenger comfort.
            2. Superelevation: Banking the track (superelevation) allows for smaller radii at moderate speeds.
            3. Train Length and Type: Longer trains need larger radii to prevent derailment or excessive wheel-rail wear.
            4. Track Purpose: Freight tracks prioritize cargo capacity, while urban systems prioritize space efficiency.

            Engineering Examples:
            • Japan’s Shinkansen (High-Speed Rail): Typically uses curve radii of 4,000 meters (13,000 feet) or more.
            • European Rail Standards (UIC): Suggest a minimum radius of 150 meters (490 feet) for low-speed tracks and 3,500 meters (11,500 feet) for high-speed rail.
            • Tight Urban Curves: Light rail systems, like trams, often use radii as small as 15 meters (50 feet) in city environments.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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