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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #27

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      jon-nyc
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      #28

      An interesting point.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        We HAD a culture that valued such things. I think we started to lose it, some time in the late 1960's. I think it fell down a rathole during the second half of the Obama Administration.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          We HAD a culture that valued such things. I think we started to lose it, some time in the late 1960's. I think it fell down a rathole during the second half of the Obama Administration.

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          @Jolly said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

          We HAD a culture that valued such things. I think we started to lose it, some time in the late 1960's. I think it fell down a rathole during the second half of the Obama Administration.

          When a white guy pretends to be a black guy leading the world's most powerful nation, noses of animals will notice a scent of something not real.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #31

            He seems pretty serious.

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            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              He's got issues.

              I hope his issues are ones that help the world.

              Education is extremely important.

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                H1Bs get used by both outsourcers and people looking for the best talent. Plenty of H1Bs used by McKinsey, Goldman Sachs and Google. They’re typically not looking for cheap labor.

                Then there’s a bunch of H1Bs used by likes Infosys for outsourcing.

                Hard to make a blanket characterization.

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                  Seeing it being brought up quite a bit on local feeds. Loudoun County Republicans are pointing to all of the Virginia Government jobs listed on the H1B networks.

                  What people need to start to realize is we NEED immigration. We simply can’t maintain the Ponzi scheme at our current reproduction rates. Estimates are 1.6 million are needed per year. If the majority are low skilled low wage earners, then the number of immigrants needed will be higher. If they are higher skilled and higher wages, then fewer are needed.

                  The Brad

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                    Said it before...We need to go back to the Braceros Program. Create whatever type of visa you want to call it, but vet the immigrant and let it be something that would apply to short term, itinerate labor.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      And what’s it matter? 2/3rds of the country will be unemployed as AI takes over. We’re all going to be fighting for scraps, and those skinny little Indian boys will be easier to push around than those Venezuelan gang members…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        And what’s it matter? 2/3rds of the country will be unemployed as AI takes over. We’re all going to be fighting for scraps, and those skinny little Indian boys will be easier to push around than those Venezuelan gang members…

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

                        And what’s it matter? 2/3rds of the country will be unemployed as AI takes over. We’re all going to be fighting for scraps, and those skinny little Indian boys will be easier to push around than those Venezuelan gang members…

                        I dunno.

                        I'm still waiting for computers to make my life easier and to create less paperwork.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

                          And what’s it matter? 2/3rds of the country will be unemployed as AI takes over. We’re all going to be fighting for scraps, and those skinny little Indian boys will be easier to push around than those Venezuelan gang members…

                          I dunno.

                          I'm still waiting for computers to make my life easier and to create less paperwork.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Jolly said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

                          I dunno.

                          I'm still waiting for computers to make my life easier and to create less paperwork.

                          I'm sure I'm not alone in finding that changing technology frequently makes my job more admin-heavy and inefficient. 20 years ago I did a lot more engineering, and a lot less feeding the data-beast.

                          I was only joking

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                            We collect a whole lot more information in healthcare. I’m not entirely sure the vast majority of it serves to make it better, but all the patient facing docs are spending more time feeding the EHR than tending patients.

                            Wholly agree on the Bracero program.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              jon-nyc
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                              AI should improve both the data collection and the utility of the data collected in time.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                AI should improve both the data collection and the utility of the data collected in time.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

                                AI should improve both the data collection and the utility of the data collected in time.

                                Yeah, and robots will give us all this extra leisure time in the 1970's.

                                I was only joking

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Ha.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      xenon
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                                      These guys couldn’t even make it to the inauguration. I like it though - it’s fun. It’s a real policy discussion, just done in WWE style.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        A real critique of the abuses of the H1B system (which I’m generally a supporter of). Nevertheless this deserves attention.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          I haven’t really examined the chart, but I can imagine all the unanticipated outcomes that have occurred. Still, a smart immigration policy would be welcome.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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