Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment

[Mik]

@Horace said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

@jon-nyc said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

@Mik said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

Tldr

If you need that long to make your point you’re working hard not smart.

Maybe you haven’t seen it but this has turned into a much bigger row about Indian Americans and American Culture (both phrases trending all day on twitter) and not simply a post about how to get ahead in life.

Maybe we both took mik's response personally.

I was referring to the posted article. Sorry if that was not clear.

[jon-nyc]

And of course the scum chimes in.

[jon-nyc]

[Jolly]

Vivek has a point about culture. He's not saying much that the "Tiger Mom" didn't say years ago, and things have slid since her time in the spotlight.

We all know it. It's partially why the public school system is in the mess it's in, as better students exit for a better education.

[Jolly]

Second note... Just go O visas for the talent.

[jon-nyc]

[jon-nyc]

An interesting point.

[Jolly]

We HAD a culture that valued such things. I think we started to lose it, some time in the late 1960's. I think it fell down a rathole during the second half of the Obama Administration.

[Horace]

@Jolly said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

We HAD a culture that valued such things. I think we started to lose it, some time in the late 1960's. I think it fell down a rathole during the second half of the Obama Administration.

When a white guy pretends to be a black guy leading the world's most powerful nation, noses of animals will notice a scent of something not real.

[jon-nyc]

He seems pretty serious.

[Horace]

He's got issues.

I hope his issues are ones that help the world.

[xenon]

H1Bs get used by both outsourcers and people looking for the best talent. Plenty of H1Bs used by McKinsey, Goldman Sachs and Google. They’re typically not looking for cheap labor.

Then there’s a bunch of H1Bs used by likes Infosys for outsourcing.

Hard to make a blanket characterization.

[LuFins Dad]

Seeing it being brought up quite a bit on local feeds. Loudoun County Republicans are pointing to all of the Virginia Government jobs listed on the H1B networks.

What people need to start to realize is we NEED immigration. We simply can’t maintain the Ponzi scheme at our current reproduction rates. Estimates are 1.6 million are needed per year. If the majority are low skilled low wage earners, then the number of immigrants needed will be higher. If they are higher skilled and higher wages, then fewer are needed.

[Jolly]

Said it before...We need to go back to the Braceros Program. Create whatever type of visa you want to call it, but vet the immigrant and let it be something that would apply to short term, itinerate labor.

[LuFins Dad]

And what’s it matter? 2/3rds of the country will be unemployed as AI takes over. We’re all going to be fighting for scraps, and those skinny little Indian boys will be easier to push around than those Venezuelan gang members…

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

And what’s it matter? 2/3rds of the country will be unemployed as AI takes over. We’re all going to be fighting for scraps, and those skinny little Indian boys will be easier to push around than those Venezuelan gang members…

I dunno.

I'm still waiting for computers to make my life easier and to create less paperwork.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

I dunno.

I'm still waiting for computers to make my life easier and to create less paperwork.

I'm sure I'm not alone in finding that changing technology frequently makes my job more admin-heavy and inefficient. 20 years ago I did a lot more engineering, and a lot less feeding the data-beast.

[Mik]

We collect a whole lot more information in healthcare. I’m not entirely sure the vast majority of it serves to make it better, but all the patient facing docs are spending more time feeding the EHR than tending patients.

Wholly agree on the Bracero program.

[jon-nyc]

AI should improve both the data collection and the utility of the data collected in time.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in Vivek's Blood, Sweat & Tears Comment:

AI should improve both the data collection and the utility of the data collected in time.

Yeah, and robots will give us all this extra leisure time in the 1970's.