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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #183

    Nope. YoY inflation as of this month was 2.9%. The change in the S&P was 20.34%.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #184

      https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cpi-inflation-august-2024

      The Labor Department on Wednesday said the consumer price index (CPI) — a broad measure of how much everyday goods like gasoline, groceries and rent cost — rose 0.2% in August from the prior month, in line with the expectations of economists polled by LSEG.

      Prices climbed 2.5% in August from the same time last year, slightly less than LSEG estimates and down from 2.9% in July.

      Overall, the report indicates that inflationary pressures in the U.S. economy are continuing to ease, though prices remain above the Federal Reserve's 2% target.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #185

        Pretty much locks in a rate cut too. Nice.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
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          #186

          Another quarter of solid economic growth.

          https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/gdp-report-q3-release-economy-inflation

          U.S. economy grew at 2.8% rate in the third quarter

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #187

            King cotton, baby!

            The Brad

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #188

              LOL...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                LOL...

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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #189

                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                LOL...

                I don't know if he's joking, but seniors working two jobs just to get by, is heart breaking.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #190

                  If there's one thing the Harris campaign has taught us all, in this precious learning moment, it's that jokes don't exist, and humor is deeply unsettling. So, I really don't know if anybody is trying to make "jokes" in this "forum", but if you are, I suggest you stop. Our democracy is on the brink. I, for one, am not laughing.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • AxtremusA Away
                    AxtremusA Away
                    Axtremus
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                    #191

                    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/20/number-of-millennial-401k-millionaires-jumps-400percent-how-they-did-it.html

                    Among [millennials with 401(k) accounts], the number of 401(k) accounts with a balance of $1 million or more rose to about 10,000 as of Sept. 30, up from around 2,000 in the third quarter of 2023, according to Fidelity, ...

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #192

                      Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                      I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                        I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #193

                        @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                        Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                        I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                        That’s not actually the case. It didn’t really come at the expense of the poor. It was mostly stock market driven and the market is thriving because of the number of the middle class moving into the upper class, not the number moving downward.

                        And again, trying to relate it to populist revolutions in the past is a little ridiculous. The “poor” are generally in housing with hvac, have access to transportation, often own a vehicle, have 1-2 televisions, a computer, and aren’t in danger of starvation. That’s not to say that it doesn’t suck. Speaking from experience, it sucks tremendously, and can be extraordinarily hard to break out of those things keeping you down. But what is keeping them down are personal decisions as much as external factors. Chemical dependencies, single parenthood, hand outs vs hand ups, and an education system that sells them a lie that the choices are a college degree that they can never afford or achieve or living a life in poverty.

                        You want to limit poverty? Limit the handouts. They can have Pell grants (in fact, increase the number of them), but the first two years HAVE to be at a Community College or Trade School. Have the school systems and counselors really promote what a trade can mean instead of a college degree. Show these kids that there are opportunities that are achievable. Also, go back to promoting family values in the schools and in entertainment.

                        The Brad

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                          I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #194

                          @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                          as the poor get poorer.

                          The poor have not gotten poorer. Actual inflation-adjusted income over the last 20 years in the bottom quartile has risen about 17%.

                          It's not a zero-sum thing - someone should tell that to (three-house owning) Bernie (P)Sanders.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
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                            #195

                            98% of the population was poor in the French Revolution. Today, it’s 27-29% in the US depending on your sources. In France, it was only 2% that belonged to the wealthy. In the US today, it’s 21-24%. And again, the definition of poor is vastly different. @Jolly knows all of this and has stated as such before. I think he’s just not wanting to find anything positive until January 20th.

                            The Brad

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #196

                              Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                              What happens to the poor when no more money can be borrowed?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                What happens to the poor when no more money can be borrowed?

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #197

                                @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                For the poor? None. It’s called being poor. They generally don’t get credit cards…

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                  Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                  For the poor? None. It’s called being poor. They generally don’t get credit cards…

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #198

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

                                  @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                  Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                  For the poor? None. It’s called being poor. They generally don’t get credit cards…

                                  That money comes from Uncle Sam. Last time I looked, Uncle Sam sure did borrow a lot of money...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #199

                                    Way to move the goalposts…It’s okay to say that things went downhill drastically over the last 4 years, but there were some positives…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #200

                                      Have programs for the poor increased during the Biden Administration?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        Biden is owning it.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #201

                                        @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                                        Biden is owning it.

                                        https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-homelessness-18-affordable-housing-remains-reach-people-117146454

                                        The United States saw an 18.1% increase in homelessness this year, a dramatic rise driven mostly by a lack of affordable housing as well as devastating natural disasters and a surge of migrants in several parts of the country, federal officials said Friday.

                                        The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development said federally required tallies taken across the country in January found that more than 770,000 people were counted as homeless — a number that misses some people and does not include those staying with friends or family because they do not have a place of their own.

                                        That increase comes on top of a 12% increase in 2023, which HUD blamed on soaring rents and the end of pandemic assistance. The 2023 increase also was driven by people experiencing homelessness for the first time. The numbers overall represent 23 of every 10,000 people in the U.S., with Black people being overrepresented among the homeless population.

                                        “No American should face homelessness, and the Biden-Harris Administration is committed to ensuring every family has access to the affordable, safe, and quality housing they deserve,” HUD Agency Head Adrianne Todman said in a statement, adding that the focus should remain on “evidence-based efforts to prevent and end homelessness.”

                                        Among the most concerning trends was a nearly 40% rise in family homelessness — one of the areas that was most affected by the arrival of migrants in big cities. Family homelessness more than doubled in 13 communities impacted by migrants including Denver, Chicago and New York City, according to HUD, while it rose less than 8% in the remaining 373 communities. Nearly 150,000 children experienced homelessness on a single night in 2024, reflecting a 33% jump from last year.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                          Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                                          I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                                          That’s not actually the case. It didn’t really come at the expense of the poor. It was mostly stock market driven and the market is thriving because of the number of the middle class moving into the upper class, not the number moving downward.

                                          And again, trying to relate it to populist revolutions in the past is a little ridiculous. The “poor” are generally in housing with hvac, have access to transportation, often own a vehicle, have 1-2 televisions, a computer, and aren’t in danger of starvation. That’s not to say that it doesn’t suck. Speaking from experience, it sucks tremendously, and can be extraordinarily hard to break out of those things keeping you down. But what is keeping them down are personal decisions as much as external factors. Chemical dependencies, single parenthood, hand outs vs hand ups, and an education system that sells them a lie that the choices are a college degree that they can never afford or achieve or living a life in poverty.

                                          You want to limit poverty? Limit the handouts. They can have Pell grants (in fact, increase the number of them), but the first two years HAVE to be at a Community College or Trade School. Have the school systems and counselors really promote what a trade can mean instead of a college degree. Show these kids that there are opportunities that are achievable. Also, go back to promoting family values in the schools and in entertainment.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #202

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

                                          The “poor” are generally in housing with hvac, have access to transportation, often own a vehicle, have 1-2 televisions, a computer, and aren’t in danger of starvation

                                          This. The poor in US are richer than probably 75% of the rest of the world.

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