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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    #180

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-second-quarter-economic-growth-revised-higher-consumer-spending-2024-08-29/

    The U.S. economy grew faster than initially thought in the second quarter amid strong consumer spending, while corporate profits rebounded, which should help to sustain the expansion.

    Gross domestic product increased at a 3.0% annualized rate last quarter, the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis said in its second estimate of second-quarter GDP on Thursday. That was an upward revision from the 2.8% rate reported last month.

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    • AxtremusA Away
      AxtremusA Away
      Axtremus
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      #181

      401(k) and IRA millionaires club rapidly expanded:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/08/30/401k-millionaires-secret/

      The number of 401(k) accounts with $1 million or more increased 31 percent, to 497,000 in the second quarter compared with the same period a year earlier, according to Fidelity Investments, one of the largest administrators of workplace retirement plans. The number of IRA millionaires hit a record 398,594, up 14 percent.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #182

        Inflation.

        Did you know that less than $800/month in the Weimar Republic would buy you a multi-bedroom apartment, a live-in butler/cook, all other living expenses and a full-time mistress? OTOH, you couldn't even pay the apartment rent with a wheelbarrow load of marks.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #183

          Nope. YoY inflation as of this month was 2.9%. The change in the S&P was 20.34%.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #184

            https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cpi-inflation-august-2024

            The Labor Department on Wednesday said the consumer price index (CPI) — a broad measure of how much everyday goods like gasoline, groceries and rent cost — rose 0.2% in August from the prior month, in line with the expectations of economists polled by LSEG.

            Prices climbed 2.5% in August from the same time last year, slightly less than LSEG estimates and down from 2.9% in July.

            Overall, the report indicates that inflationary pressures in the U.S. economy are continuing to ease, though prices remain above the Federal Reserve's 2% target.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #185

              Pretty much locks in a rate cut too. Nice.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • AxtremusA Away
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                Axtremus
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                #186

                Another quarter of solid economic growth.

                https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/gdp-report-q3-release-economy-inflation

                U.S. economy grew at 2.8% rate in the third quarter

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #187

                  King cotton, baby!

                  The Brad

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #188

                    LOL...

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      LOL...

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #189

                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                      LOL...

                      I don't know if he's joking, but seniors working two jobs just to get by, is heart breaking.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #190

                        If there's one thing the Harris campaign has taught us all, in this precious learning moment, it's that jokes don't exist, and humor is deeply unsettling. So, I really don't know if anybody is trying to make "jokes" in this "forum", but if you are, I suggest you stop. Our democracy is on the brink. I, for one, am not laughing.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • AxtremusA Away
                          AxtremusA Away
                          Axtremus
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                          #191

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/20/number-of-millennial-401k-millionaires-jumps-400percent-how-they-did-it.html

                          Among [millennials with 401(k) accounts], the number of 401(k) accounts with a balance of $1 million or more rose to about 10,000 as of Sept. 30, up from around 2,000 in the third quarter of 2023, according to Fidelity, ...

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            #192

                            Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                            I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                              I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                              LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
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                              #193

                              @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                              Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                              I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

                              That’s not actually the case. It didn’t really come at the expense of the poor. It was mostly stock market driven and the market is thriving because of the number of the middle class moving into the upper class, not the number moving downward.

                              And again, trying to relate it to populist revolutions in the past is a little ridiculous. The “poor” are generally in housing with hvac, have access to transportation, often own a vehicle, have 1-2 televisions, a computer, and aren’t in danger of starvation. That’s not to say that it doesn’t suck. Speaking from experience, it sucks tremendously, and can be extraordinarily hard to break out of those things keeping you down. But what is keeping them down are personal decisions as much as external factors. Chemical dependencies, single parenthood, hand outs vs hand ups, and an education system that sells them a lie that the choices are a college degree that they can never afford or achieve or living a life in poverty.

                              You want to limit poverty? Limit the handouts. They can have Pell grants (in fact, increase the number of them), but the first two years HAVE to be at a Community College or Trade School. Have the school systems and counselors really promote what a trade can mean instead of a college degree. Show these kids that there are opportunities that are achievable. Also, go back to promoting family values in the schools and in entertainment.

                              The Brad

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Yep, income inequality, as the poor get poorer.

                                I assume you know that income inequality in democracies is the harbinger of revolution and/or a descending into dictatorship?

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #194

                                @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                as the poor get poorer.

                                The poor have not gotten poorer. Actual inflation-adjusted income over the last 20 years in the bottom quartile has risen about 17%.

                                It's not a zero-sum thing - someone should tell that to (three-house owning) Bernie (P)Sanders.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #195

                                  98% of the population was poor in the French Revolution. Today, it’s 27-29% in the US depending on your sources. In France, it was only 2% that belonged to the wealthy. In the US today, it’s 21-24%. And again, the definition of poor is vastly different. @Jolly knows all of this and has stated as such before. I think he’s just not wanting to find anything positive until January 20th.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #196

                                    Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                    What happens to the poor when no more money can be borrowed?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                      What happens to the poor when no more money can be borrowed?

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #197

                                      @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                      Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                      For the poor? None. It’s called being poor. They generally don’t get credit cards…

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                        Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                        For the poor? None. It’s called being poor. They generally don’t get credit cards…

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #198

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

                                        @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

                                        Ok, for all of those luxuries the poor enjoy, how much is paid for with borrowed money?

                                        For the poor? None. It’s called being poor. They generally don’t get credit cards…

                                        That money comes from Uncle Sam. Last time I looked, Uncle Sam sure did borrow a lot of money...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #199

                                          Way to move the goalposts…It’s okay to say that things went downhill drastically over the last 4 years, but there were some positives…

                                          The Brad

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