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    Jolly
    wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 13:26 last edited by
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    https://dailycaller.com/2024/12/15/trump-privatize-federal-agency-usps-postal-service/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      89th
      wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 16:02 last edited by
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      Get ready for the cost of a stamp to go way, way up.

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        16 Dec 2024, 16:02

        Get ready for the cost of a stamp to go way, way up.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 16:09 last edited by
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        @89th said in USPS:

        Get ready for the cost of a stamp to go way, way up.

        and for it to become very slow and/or expensive to deliver to certain places.

        I don't see the post office working as a for-profit organization, however I also don't think that people like Vivek and Elon really care less.

        I was only joking

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          Jolly
          wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 17:12 last edited by
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          Could cut a lot by dropping the EV contract.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            16 Dec 2024, 16:09

            @89th said in USPS:

            Get ready for the cost of a stamp to go way, way up.

            and for it to become very slow and/or expensive to deliver to certain places.

            I don't see the post office working as a for-profit organization, however I also don't think that people like Vivek and Elon really care less.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 20:09 last edited by
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in USPS:

            I don't see the post office working as a for-profit organization,

            I agree. There are certain things to be provided by the government which usually never be profitable. Post office, public transit, police, fire, etc.

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              16 Dec 2024, 17:12

              Could cut a lot by dropping the EV contract.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 20:19 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in USPS:

              Could cut a lot by dropping the EV contract.

              The problem goes a lot further back than that

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              I was only joking

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                Jolly
                wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 20:46 last edited by
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                To be fair, they make them count their retirement different from Federal agencies...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 17 Dec 2024, 01:25 last edited by
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                  Remember when the Postmaster General was a Cabinet position? Sounds very 19th century but it lasted until the Carter Administration

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 17 Dec 2024, 12:17 last edited by Jolly
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                    For years, the Australians used Honda scooters, like the one in the first picture. Cheap to buy and operate, very reliable and easy to work on. But their parcel numbers kept going up and they wanted to go the EV route...That's their new EV trike in the second picture.

                    I realize those delivery vehicles would not work well in many USPS post offices, but they would do well in some. And for a lot less money.

                    The USPS needs new vehicles. I suggest they need a mixture of right hand drive gas (or propane) powered vehicles and something like Australia's EV trike.

                    Not the hugely expensive Biden EV.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      89th
                      wrote on 17 Dec 2024, 13:53 last edited by
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                      I'd be curious how much of the net loss is vehicle based...

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 17 Dec 2024, 14:17 last edited by
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                        Taiwan delivery vehicle. I only remember seeing these. Never any post trucks like in the US.
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                        It would be interesting to get Amazon feedback on their use of electric delivery trucks. That would be a good indicator of they are worthwhile for a large organization to use.

                        But as @Doctor-Phibes points out, the problem with the US post office is far above the buying electric delivery vans. New vehicles are needed no matter what. From my very minimum research, the electric vans are costing about USD$10-$15K more than a gas power one. What the savings are in maintenance, fuel etc and long the payback is to cover the additional higher first cost, I dont know.

                        But, the post office has lost USD$87B in the last 15 years or so (plus the pension costs), so the electric vehicle situation is (relatively) minor issue.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 17 Dec 2024, 14:22 last edited by
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                          The electric vehicle thing is just a handy political shiny bauble to dangle, it's obviously a much more fundamental problem.

                          Alternatively, maybe Trump could award the contract for them to Elon and ask for a big discount?

                          I was only joking

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