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    Mik
    wrote on 11 Dec 2024, 17:07 last edited by
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    I think you have to examine the context in which this happened, which is a scorched earth effort to destroy Trump as a candidate. No stone was left unturned to try to find something, anything, to prosecute or sue him on, anything to present to make him look bad. There is plenty of reason to assume bad intent. To try to judge the Jan 6 committee's actions as an isolated event is to be one of the blind men and the elephant.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      11 Dec 2024, 15:16

      You can look up the full report here, but just as they showed summary videos of what happened that day, I don't expect anyone will open this link and read through the thousands of pages.

      Here is a summary of what was found by the committee.

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-key-findings-and-criminal-referrals-from-the-jan-6-committee-report-summary

      Now, whether you or I or anyone else agree or disagree or condemn or simply wish the committee was run in a different matter... ask yourselves this: Prior to the committee, when we just had youtube highlights, and people on both sides claiming different narratives, resulting in a very muddy picture for the historical record... isn't it important to have a mostly-complete investigation and recreation of all of the events, statements, actions prior, during, and after the Capitol attack so that there is at least a chance of history having a clear record of what happened? In that light, I say the committee was very much was worthwhile.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 11 Dec 2024, 19:00 last edited by
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      @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

      isn't it important to have a mostly-complete investigation and recreation of all of the events, statements, actions prior, during, and after the Capitol attack so that there is at least a chance of history having a clear record of what happened?

      So, when do we get that?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        89th
        wrote on 11 Dec 2024, 19:03 last edited by
        #49

        I have ever confidence Trump will investigate the attack that absolutely had nothing to do with him.

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          Horace
          wrote on 11 Dec 2024, 19:35 last edited by
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          It'll be very interesting to see a case by case analysis of the rioters and their punishments.

          Education is extremely important.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 15:58 last edited by
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            I thought that Rep. Johnson, when he became speaker said he was going to release ALL of the Jan 6 footage.

            Has that been done?

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              12 Dec 2024, 15:58

              I thought that Rep. Johnson, when he became speaker said he was going to release ALL of the Jan 6 footage.

              Has that been done?

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              George K
              wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 16:08 last edited by
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              @taiwan_girl yes.

              https://cha.house.gov/2024/3/committee-on-house-administration-releases-5-000-more-hours-of-january-6-footage

              https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 16:47 last edited by
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                5000 released. Only 35000 left to go. LOL

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                • H Horace
                  11 Dec 2024, 19:35

                  It'll be very interesting to see a case by case analysis of the rioters and their punishments.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:37 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                  It'll be very interesting to see a case by case analysis of the rioters and their punishments.

                  Where have you seen that? I can’t imagine an organization putting in the time and effort to do that unless the real objective were cherry picking to froth up a subset of the electorate.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    13 Dec 2024, 00:37

                    @Horace said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                    It'll be very interesting to see a case by case analysis of the rioters and their punishments.

                    Where have you seen that? I can’t imagine an organization putting in the time and effort to do that unless the real objective were cherry picking to froth up a subset of the electorate.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:01 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                    @Horace said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                    It'll be very interesting to see a case by case analysis of the rioters and their punishments.

                    Where have you seen that? I can’t imagine an organization putting in the time and effort to do that unless the real objective were cherry picking to froth up a subset of the electorate.

                    Trump has said he'd issue pardons for Jan 6 rioters, on a case by case basis. I will be interested to see the microscope put to each of those cases, and I trust the media will oblige me on that. That is assuming he issues any pardons.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:48 last edited by
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                      https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

                      (But too lazy to go through them. 555)

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:58 last edited by
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                        Some legal types in his admin will go over each of them, and if anything bubbles to the top as an unreasonable punishment, Trump may pardon, and we will all get a deep dive into that particular case.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          13 Dec 2024, 01:48

                          https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

                          (But too lazy to go through them. 555)

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 03:28 last edited by
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                          https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

                          (But too lazy to go through them. 555)

                          Funny I almost wrote ‘except the DoJ’ in my post.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • T taiwan_girl
                            13 Dec 2024, 01:48

                            https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

                            (But too lazy to go through them. 555)

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 27 Jan 2025, 01:25 last edited by
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                            @taiwan_girl said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                            https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

                            (But too lazy to go through them. 555)

                            Hmmmmm.

                            Website is not longer available.......

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