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  • 89th8 Online
    89th8 Online
    89th
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    Want to move to Morris, IL?

    $650k and 26 weeks vacation.

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    • 89th8 Online
      89th8 Online
      89th
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      #2

      https://www.reddit.com/r/Salary/comments/1h576bb/650000_salary_26_weeks_vacation_anesthesiologist/

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        LOL. Our group had a contract with Morris. I spent a year working there. Four ORs, about 500 deliveries a year. No trauma, no hearts, no major vascular. It was 50.6 miles from my house.

        Our group was there from 1994 to 2004. We provided 24/7 coverage for OB and OR, and it was mildly profitable. As I said there are 4 ORs now, but there used to be only 3.

        In 2003, one of the ortho surgeons built an outpatient surgery center, focused, naturally on outpatient orthopedic work. He asked us to cover that location as well. He owned 51% of it, and the hospital was a 49% partner. We told that hospital that, without compensation, we can't suddenly increase our responsibilities by 33% without more staff. Of course, the well-paying outpatient work would go to the surgicenter and there would be that much less work in the 3 ORs they had. We asked for a stipend to cover the cost of hiring more personnel, and the hospital said no. So, we gave them 90 days' notice and left on 12/31/2004.

        Morris?

        I wouldn't live/work there for twice the money.

        The big attraction was the Super Walmart and a truck stop calle "'R' Place." They had a burger that was so big that if you could finish it, your name went on a wall.

        Screenshot 2024-12-03 at 3.14.54 PM.png

        I think this was it...maybe it was bigger - I never went in there.

        It was right across the street from the dirty bookstore (days of dialup, remember). I never went in there either. Something about a dirty bookstore across the street from a truck stop....

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          Ask yourself why they're offering that much money with that kind of time off....

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            Also, since it was 50 miles away, you had to be in town for call. Our group ended up buying townhouse to that family could spend the weekend with you - yeah we took call for a weekend at a time. Kinda sucked.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • Tom-KT Offline
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              Damn George! It does seem like you have a run in with that operation. 🙂

              (On the other hand let me say something nice about ortho surgeons--I had one fix my sholder issues. He cut off my bones [probably took it home and made soup out of it] and then stuck in some shiny steel and really fixed me. Not the usual, "here's some pills and see if this works.")

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              • 89th8 Online
                89th8 Online
                89th
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                Wow, I didn’t expect such a personal history! Good stories, George.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  Gas passers are in short supply these days and they're commanding premium salaries. Mrs. George's neurosurgeon told us that one of the big hospitals in the far western suburbs is throwing money at anesthesiologists to work there.

                  Seems that The University wanted to buy out the department that was there and become their employer. One-third of the private group said nope and they walked. They're cancelling all kinds of elective cases there because they're short-staffed.

                  If you recall the group at my place lost their contract because they needed financial support and the hospital refused to provide it. You can't have 3 people on call all the time and not have it cost something. So the contract was not renewed, and the hospital was scrambling for coverage. OR business went down 50% overnight. Then, they discovered that any replacement would cost even more.

                  Yeah, they fucked up really bad.

                  Thread here:

                  https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1386052#p1386052

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Gas passers are in short supply these days and they're commanding premium salaries. Mrs. George's neurosurgeon told us that one of the big hospitals in the far western suburbs is throwing money at anesthesiologists to work there.

                    Seems that The University wanted to buy out the department that was there and become their employer. One-third of the private group said nope and they walked. They're cancelling all kinds of elective cases there because they're short-staffed.

                    If you recall the group at my place lost their contract because they needed financial support and the hospital refused to provide it. You can't have 3 people on call all the time and not have it cost something. So the contract was not renewed, and the hospital was scrambling for coverage. OR business went down 50% overnight. Then, they discovered that any replacement would cost even more.

                    Yeah, they fucked up really bad.

                    Thread here:

                    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_new_coffee_room/viewtopic.php?p=1386052#p1386052

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #9

                    @George-K Interesting stories George. Love it!

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                      George K
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                      Continuing...

                      As I said in the thread on Tapatalk, none of the docs at my place decided to stay.

                      The mega-group national practice that was going to take over had a model which said that when they take over a practice/site, about 70% of the docs stay with the new structure. At my old place, the percentage was...0%. Everyone left and found jobs within a matter of weeks.

                      So, all of a sudden this national corp was in a pickle. They committed to provide coverage based on their model - but in my place, the model failed. So, all of a sudden, there are no docs. None.

                      But wait! There's more!

                      When they realized they were up the creek without a paddle, the hospital asked our old group to reconsider leaving. The response was, "Wait. You fired us because you wouldn't pay us, and now you want us to come back and you promise to pay us? What guarantee do you offer that you won't fuck us over again? Nah. Go fuck yourselves and enjoy your new anesthesia group - if you can find one."

                      But wait! There's even more!

                      Turns out that the hospital (not known for their business acumen) never actually had a contact with the new mega group. It was an "agreement." When the mega group (based in Texas) discovered they would have no staff they backed out.

                      Now they were in a real pickle.

                      After weeks of scrambling around, my old place found a practice (about 30 miles away) that agreed to provide coverage - for more money than my old group was asking.

                      FAFO.

                      It's never recovered.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Continuing more...

                        One of my partners found work at a place not much farther from where he lives than the old place.

                        He was at a "meet the new staff" dinner.

                        The CEO of his new hospital came and introduced himself.

                        "Hi! I'm Tom Franklin. I'm the CEO."

                        "HI Tom. I'd Ed Johnson."

                        "You're new?"

                        "Yup."

                        "Where are you from?

                        "I'm an anesthesiologist. I came from St. Elsewhere."

                        "Good Lord. That place is the poster child in the Chicago area for how to not deal with an anesthesia group."

                        My former group had an exclusive contact at St. Elsewhere from 1953 to 2017. They really fucked it up.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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