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Musk is not a fan.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Thinks the F-35 was tasked to do too many things, driving up the cost, while not being the best at anything...

    https://nypost.com/2024/11/25/business/elon-musk-slams-idiots-making-costly-f-35-fighter-jets-as-he-prepares-to-cut-costs/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Away
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      An apt comparison to software today. ERPs and EHRs both try to be all things to all organizations, ending not being particularly good at anything.

      To be fair, part of the problem is organizations buy these systems and try to make them operate just like the system they replace rather than changing processes to take advantage of the new software. I’ve seen it dozens of times.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        I'm about halfway through Isaacson's biography of Musk (great read, BTW), and these comments come as no surprise to me.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Thinks the F-35 was tasked to do too many things, driving up the cost, while not being the best at anything...

          https://nypost.com/2024/11/25/business/elon-musk-slams-idiots-making-costly-f-35-fighter-jets-as-he-prepares-to-cut-costs/

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          @Jolly said in Musk is not a fan.:

          Thinks the F-35 was tasked to do too many things, driving up the cost, while not being the best at anything...

          https://nypost.com/2024/11/25/business/elon-musk-slams-idiots-making-costly-f-35-fighter-jets-as-he-prepares-to-cut-costs/

          I'm reminded of the story that a camel is a horse that was designed by a committee.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Nature is a big committee, evolution is a long process.

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              @Jolly said in Musk is not a fan.:

              Thinks the F-35 was tasked to do too many things, driving up the cost, while not being the best at anything...

              https://nypost.com/2024/11/25/business/elon-musk-slams-idiots-making-costly-f-35-fighter-jets-as-he-prepares-to-cut-costs/

              I'm reminded of the story that a camel is a horse that was designed by a committee.

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              @jon-nyc said in Musk is not a fan.:

              I'm reminded of the story that a camel is a horse that was designed by a committee.

              It's worth noting that nobody was ever accused of beating a dead camel.

              I was only joking

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              • MikM Mik

                An apt comparison to software today. ERPs and EHRs both try to be all things to all organizations, ending not being particularly good at anything.

                To be fair, part of the problem is organizations buy these systems and try to make them operate just like the system they replace rather than changing processes to take advantage of the new software. I’ve seen it dozens of times.

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                @Mik said in Musk is not a fan.:

                To be fair, part of the problem is organizations buy these systems and try to make them operate just like the system they replace rather than changing processes to take advantage of the new software. I’ve seen it dozens of times.

                Ha, very true. A few years ago I led a team to deploy ServiceNow across their enterprise, to replace a previous ITSM system that was dying. Not the hardest task but it had failed twice by previous companies/teams. We got it done in 6 months (if anyone has gone through ATO they know that process alone can take 6 months), so this was a major win for the client. It wasn't small, it supported about 500 active users, and we included "modules" such as ITSM, catalog requests, RITMs, and even the sounds-fancy Virtual Agent. The reason we got it done is we had a client manager who listened to us (for once!) where we essentially said we DGAF what the previous customized system did, we were deploying ServiceNow about 95% out of the box. It solved each customer requirement, did the job well, fast, and we put an easy interface on top for the end user. It was a very rare project where we had an IT solution that didn't get pulled into the natural "oh but just one more custom feature... x1000" sticky mud pit that dooms or delays so many projects.

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                  @Mik said in Musk is not a fan.:

                  To be fair, part of the problem is organizations buy these systems and try to make them operate just like the system they replace rather than changing processes to take advantage of the new software. I’ve seen it dozens of times.

                  Ha, very true. A few years ago I led a team to deploy ServiceNow across their enterprise, to replace a previous ITSM system that was dying. Not the hardest task but it had failed twice by previous companies/teams. We got it done in 6 months (if anyone has gone through ATO they know that process alone can take 6 months), so this was a major win for the client. It wasn't small, it supported about 500 active users, and we included "modules" such as ITSM, catalog requests, RITMs, and even the sounds-fancy Virtual Agent. The reason we got it done is we had a client manager who listened to us (for once!) where we essentially said we DGAF what the previous customized system did, we were deploying ServiceNow about 95% out of the box. It solved each customer requirement, did the job well, fast, and we put an easy interface on top for the end user. It was a very rare project where we had an IT solution that didn't get pulled into the natural "oh but just one more custom feature... x1000" sticky mud pit that dooms or delays so many projects.

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                  @89th I have absolutely no idea what you were talking about. 5555

                  Reminds me of the comedian Steve Martin joke

                  *“Okay, I don’t like to gear my material to the audience, but I’d like to make an exception because I was told that there is a convention of plumbers in San Francisco this week – and I understand about 30 of them came down to the show tonight – so before I came out I worked-up a joke especially for the plumbers. Those of you who aren’t plumbers probably won’t get this and won’t think it’s funny, but I think those of you who are plumbers will really enjoy this, and uh…. So if you’re not a plumber, please, bear with me for a while and just kinda, you know, hold off on this, but I would like to do this for the plumbers. Here we go.

                  “This lawn supervisor was out on a sprinkler maintenance job and he started working on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom 7″ gangly wrench. Well, just then, this little apprentice leaned over and said, “You can’t work on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom 7″ wrench.” Well this infuriated the supervisor, so he went and got Volume 14 of the Kinsley manual, and he reads to him and says, “The Langstrom 7″ wrench can be used with the Findlay sprocket.” Just then, the little apprentice leaned over and said, “It says sprocket not socket!”*

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