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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #5

    Here’s what you’re going to see in the news, though… Not the 24 year old gang member that’s selling Fentanyl out of an ice cream truck, but the 8-month old anchor baby. The story will be about the baby being forced to be separated from the hard working father that runs his own ice cream business, or the baby will be forced to go to an unfamiliar country in horrible conditions…

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      And that propaganda will work really, really well on the minds of the online left, and maybe not so well on everybody else. It'll cause them to self-isolate even more, convinced that they are good and anybody who disagrees is evil. That ultimately works to the advantage of Maga in the electorate. Nobody likes self-righteous scolds.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Here’s what you’re going to see in the news, though… Not the 24 year old gang member that’s selling Fentanyl out of an ice cream truck, but the 8-month old anchor baby. The story will be about the baby being forced to be separated from the hard working father that runs his own ice cream business, or the baby will be forced to go to an unfamiliar country in horrible conditions…

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

        Here’s what you’re going to see in the news, though… Not the 24 year old gang member that’s selling Fentanyl out of an ice cream truck, but the 8-month old anchor baby. The story will be about the baby being forced to be separated from the hard working father that runs his own ice cream business, or the baby will be forced to go to an unfamiliar country in horrible conditions…

        Don't forget those that work on farms.

        And just to be perfectly clear, many immigrants (legal or illegal) work 1000x harder than I do. I sit at a computer and turn on a fan if I get too warm.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          #8

          If this was an easy problem to solve, it would have been solved by one side or the other by now. I don't think it's going to be, whatever Trump claims.

          Like cutting the deficit, this is a lot simpler when it's somebody else's job.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            If this was an easy problem to solve, it would have been solved by one side or the other by now. I don't think it's going to be, whatever Trump claims.

            Like cutting the deficit, this is a lot simpler when it's somebody else's job.

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            Jolly
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            #9

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

            If this was an easy problem to solve, it would have been solved by one side or the other by now. I don't think it's going to be, whatever Trump claims.

            Like cutting the deficit, this is a lot simpler when it's somebody else's job.

            I think people know that, but the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Ship 'em out

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                As I have stated before, I am a fan of LEGAL immigration, not illegal.

                But, if these deportations go through, there will be some (unintended) consequences

                increase in grocery prices, especially in vegetables, fruits, etc.
                increase in dining out prices
                chance of house construction and repairs going up
                etc.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  #12

                  Might have to start mowing my own lawn.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    As I have stated before, I am a fan of LEGAL immigration, not illegal.

                    But, if these deportations go through, there will be some (unintended) consequences

                    increase in grocery prices, especially in vegetables, fruits, etc.
                    increase in dining out prices
                    chance of house construction and repairs going up
                    etc.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @taiwan_girl said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                    As I have stated before, I am a fan of LEGAL immigration, not illegal.

                    But, if these deportations go through, there will be some (unintended) consequences

                    increase in grocery prices, especially in vegetables, fruits, etc.
                    increase in dining out prices
                    chance of house construction and repairs going up
                    etc.

                    End welfare. Problem solved.

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      #14

                      I have been assured by my Democrat Congressmen that if we eliminate slavery stop this immigration, no one will pick the cotton be do the jobs no one wants to do.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        I have been assured by my Democrat Congressmen that if we eliminate slavery stop this immigration, no one will pick the cotton be do the jobs no one wants to do.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @George-K said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                        I have been assured by my Democrat Congressmen that if we eliminate slavery stop this immigration, no one will pick the cotton be do the jobs no one wants to do.

                        That was similar to my first reply that I edited out.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @taiwan_girl there’s a problem with your supposition.

                          If we removed every single one of the over 10,000,000 illegal immigrants that entered the country over the last 4 years, we would still have more laborers (documented and undocumented) than we had in 2019, when produce prices and contracted labor rates were considered quite low. While an inflationary jump would still be expected, there’s still an excess of day labor.

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            Beyond that, a significant number of the undocumented workers on farms are actually documented through the H-2A. There are plans to expand the H-2A program as necessary.

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG George K

                              I have been assured by my Democrat Congressmen that if we eliminate slavery stop this immigration, no one will pick the cotton be do the jobs no one wants to do.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              @George-K said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                              I have been assured by my Democrat Congressmen that if we eliminate slavery stop this immigration, no one will pick the cotton be do the jobs no one wants to do.

                              Nobody in their right mind would want my job

                              I was only joking

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                                #19

                                Well, we may find out. I would still estimate that more than 50% of people who hand pick crops in the field are illegal.

                                I would also estimate that greater than 50% of the typical Chinese buffet restaurant staff, which you see in pretty much every US town, is staffed by illegals. I also estimate that a lot of the waitstaff and servers do not work for any salary but just make their money in tips. The owner has a house nearby with multiple bedrooms where the staff stays. Usually 12 hour shifts, with one day off per week.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                                  If this was an easy problem to solve, it would have been solved by one side or the other by now. I don't think it's going to be, whatever Trump claims.

                                  Like cutting the deficit, this is a lot simpler when it's somebody else's job.

                                  I think people know that, but the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

                                  MikM Offline
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                                  @Jolly said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                                  If this was an easy problem to solve, it would have been solved by one side or the other by now. I don't think it's going to be, whatever Trump claims.

                                  Like cutting the deficit, this is a lot simpler when it's somebody else's job.

                                  I think people know that, but the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

                                  There you go. If you do nothing you get nothing but worse.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Might have to start mowing my own lawn.

                                    MikM Offline
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                                    #21

                                    @Horace said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                                    Might have to start mowing my own lawn.

                                    Now you're scaring me.

                                    Oh, wait - my guy's an Anglo-Saxon citizen.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Although not technically a deportation , remember when the national guard of Massachusetts “transported “a bunch of “migrants “out of Martha’s Vineyard and onto Cape Cod?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        Well, we may find out. I would still estimate that more than 50% of people who hand pick crops in the field are illegal.

                                        I would also estimate that greater than 50% of the typical Chinese buffet restaurant staff, which you see in pretty much every US town, is staffed by illegals. I also estimate that a lot of the waitstaff and servers do not work for any salary but just make their money in tips. The owner has a house nearby with multiple bedrooms where the staff stays. Usually 12 hour shifts, with one day off per week.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #23

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Using the Military for Mass Deportations:

                                        Well, we may find out. I would still estimate that more than 50% of people who hand pick crops in the field are illegal.

                                        I would also estimate that greater than 50% of the typical Chinese buffet restaurant staff, which you see in pretty much every US town, is staffed by illegals. I also estimate that a lot of the waitstaff and servers do not work for any salary but just make their money in tips. The owner has a house nearby with multiple bedrooms where the staff stays. Usually 12 hour shifts, with one day off per week.

                                        And you don’t see the very real problem with that?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          And again, the official population of the United States in 2019 was 328M. There were plenty of low income agricultural workers and restaurant workers keeping prices and wages low. Today, there are 343M. At least 10M of the 15M increase are undocumented migrants that came to the US since 2019. If you deported every single one of those illegal aliens, you still have all of the low cost labor pool that you had in 2019. There would be minimal cost increases due to labor shortages.

                                          The Brad

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