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  • 8 89th
    19 Nov 2024, 01:29

    Odds it’ll catch again? It’s an engineering marvel. When I was touring Kennedy Space Center I saw the tower they’ll use in the future there, it’s hard to describe how massive it is.

    I was also struck with how routine SpaceX launches are there, there was at least two that week, one with boosters landing on a launch pad, the other one landing on a drone ship, and you can tell which ones have been used before because they're black/scorched on the sides from the multiple launches.

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    George K
    wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 01:30 last edited by
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    @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

    Odds it’ll catch again?

    Polymarket has it at 77% or so.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • 8 89th
      19 Nov 2024, 01:29

      Odds it’ll catch again? It’s an engineering marvel. When I was touring Kennedy Space Center I saw the tower they’ll use in the future there, it’s hard to describe how massive it is.

      I was also struck with how routine SpaceX launches are there, there was at least two that week, one with boosters landing on a launch pad, the other one landing on a drone ship, and you can tell which ones have been used before because they're black/scorched on the sides from the multiple launches.

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      George K
      wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 01:31 last edited by George K
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      @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

      ou can tell which ones have been used before because they're black/scorched on the sides from the multiple launches.

      You don't have to be pretty to be effective. Just ask Mrs. George #1.

      ETA: She was very pretty (RIP).

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        19 Nov 2024, 01:30

        @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

        Odds it’ll catch again?

        Polymarket has it at 77% or so.

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        wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 01:37 last edited by
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        @George-K said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

        @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

        Odds it’ll catch again?

        Polymarket has it at 77% or so.

        Yeah that’d be my guess too.

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          89th
          wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 22:13 last edited by 89th
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          The “catch” was aborted, they directed the booster to land (heh) in the Gulf of Mexico where it slowed, stopped, then exploded over water. I’m sure some fish were like WTF?

          Still amazing to see the most powerful engine EVAH launch such a massive vehicle.

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            George K
            wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 22:24 last edited by
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            I'm reading the Musk biography.

            He's been fascinated with rockets since he was a kid.


            “Musk incorporated Space Exploration Technologies in May 2002. At first he called the company by its initials, SET. A few months later, he highlighted his favorite letter by moving to a more memorable moniker, SpaceX. Its goal, he said in an early presentation, was to launch its first rocket by September 2003 and to send an unmanned mission to Mars by 2010. Thus continued the tradition he had established at PayPal: setting unrealistic timelines that transformed his wild notions from being completely insane to being merely very late.”

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              kluurs
              wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 22:58 last edited by
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              I enjoyed that biography - a lot. It was one of those books where I was a little sad when finishing it.

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              • K kluurs
                19 Nov 2024, 22:58

                I enjoyed that biography - a lot. It was one of those books where I was a little sad when finishing it.

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                George K
                wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 22:59 last edited by
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                @kluurs I'm only a little bit into it, but the word that comes to mind is "mercurial" as I read it.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 23:05 last edited by
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                  I sort of believe it when people say he’s not really a scientific or engineering genius per se. Does the book indicate any extraordinary precociousness?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 23:10 last edited by
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                    Meanwhile, in the Indian Ocean - note the "flip"

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      19 Nov 2024, 23:05

                      I sort of believe it when people say he’s not really a scientific or engineering genius per se. Does the book indicate any extraordinary precociousness?

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                      @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                      I sort of believe it when people say he’s not really a scientific or engineering genius per se. Does the book indicate any extraordinary precociousness?

                      He lives audaciously. He's bright - but not warm and fuzzy. He pushes himself and those around him - a lot. With SpaceX - he liked to show up conventional business practices. He wanted to show up the idiocy of paying for normal business practices - i.e. oodles of specifications set by bureaucrats and paying for incompetence. He avoided all of that - and instead aimed at the outcome - and how to get their quickly and economically - available parts that do the job - as opposed to custom. He likes to roll the dice - and put it all on the line - and has done that more than once. Not an easy person to work with or for - but he's rolled that dice successfully more times than one should expect.
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                        19 Nov 2024, 23:22

                        @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                        I sort of believe it when people say he’s not really a scientific or engineering genius per se. Does the book indicate any extraordinary precociousness?

                        He lives audaciously. He's bright - but not warm and fuzzy. He pushes himself and those around him - a lot. With SpaceX - he liked to show up conventional business practices. He wanted to show up the idiocy of paying for normal business practices - i.e. oodles of specifications set by bureaucrats and paying for incompetence. He avoided all of that - and instead aimed at the outcome - and how to get their quickly and economically - available parts that do the job - as opposed to custom. He likes to roll the dice - and put it all on the line - and has done that more than once. Not an easy person to work with or for - but he's rolled that dice successfully more times than one should expect.
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                        @kluurs said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                        @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                        I sort of believe it when people say he’s not really a scientific or engineering genius per se. Does the book indicate any extraordinary precociousness?

                        He lives audaciously. He's bright - but not warm and fuzzy. He pushes himself and those around him - a lot. With SpaceX - he liked to show up conventional business practices. He wanted to show up the idiocy of paying for normal business practices - i.e. oodles of specifications set by bureaucrats and paying for incompetence. He avoided all of that - and instead aimed at the outcome - and how to get their quickly and economically - available parts that do the job - as opposed to custom. He likes to roll the dice - and put it all on the line - and has done that more than once. Not an easy person to work with or for - but he's rolled that dice successfully more times than one should expect.
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                        That’s around what I thought. So, no “super genius” anecdotes around scientific or engineering problems, but a business innovator and risk taker and many times success story. I guess we can hope as a planet that he’s not just the coin that came up heads 30 times in a row. He sure is imposing his will, not that I have any issues with his will so far.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          19 Nov 2024, 23:39

                          @kluurs said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                          @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                          I sort of believe it when people say he’s not really a scientific or engineering genius per se. Does the book indicate any extraordinary precociousness?

                          He lives audaciously. He's bright - but not warm and fuzzy. He pushes himself and those around him - a lot. With SpaceX - he liked to show up conventional business practices. He wanted to show up the idiocy of paying for normal business practices - i.e. oodles of specifications set by bureaucrats and paying for incompetence. He avoided all of that - and instead aimed at the outcome - and how to get their quickly and economically - available parts that do the job - as opposed to custom. He likes to roll the dice - and put it all on the line - and has done that more than once. Not an easy person to work with or for - but he's rolled that dice successfully more times than one should expect.
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                          That’s around what I thought. So, no “super genius” anecdotes around scientific or engineering problems, but a business innovator and risk taker and many times success story. I guess we can hope as a planet that he’s not just the coin that came up heads 30 times in a row. He sure is imposing his will, not that I have any issues with his will so far.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 20 Nov 2024, 00:01 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                          risk taker and many times success story

                          “Some people were playing a high-stakes game of Texas Hold ’Em. Although Musk was not a card player, he pulled up to the table. “There were all these nerds and sharpsters who were good at memorizing cards and calculating odds,” “Levchin says. “Elon just proceeded to go all in on every hand and lose. Then he would buy more chips and double down. Eventually, after losing many hands, he went all in and won. Then he said, ‘Right, fine, I’m done.’ ” It would be a theme in his life: avoid taking chips off the table; keep risking them.”

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            20 Nov 2024, 00:01

                            @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                            risk taker and many times success story

                            “Some people were playing a high-stakes game of Texas Hold ’Em. Although Musk was not a card player, he pulled up to the table. “There were all these nerds and sharpsters who were good at memorizing cards and calculating odds,” “Levchin says. “Elon just proceeded to go all in on every hand and lose. Then he would buy more chips and double down. Eventually, after losing many hands, he went all in and won. Then he said, ‘Right, fine, I’m done.’ ” It would be a theme in his life: avoid taking chips off the table; keep risking them.”

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 20 Nov 2024, 00:10 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                            @Horace said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                            risk taker and many times success story

                            “Some people were playing a high-stakes game of Texas Hold ’Em. Although Musk was not a card player, he pulled up to the table. “There were all these nerds and sharpsters who were good at memorizing cards and calculating odds,” “Levchin says. “Elon just proceeded to go all in on every hand and lose. Then he would buy more chips and double down. Eventually, after losing many hands, he went all in and won. Then he said, ‘Right, fine, I’m done.’ ” It would be a theme in his life: avoid taking chips off the table; keep risking them.”

                            That doesn't even qualify as smart. In fact he picked the one strategy at that table that could possibly have lost him his whole fortune.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 20 Nov 2024, 01:28 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                19 Nov 2024, 01:30

                                @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                                Odds it’ll catch again?

                                Polymarket has it at 77% or so.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 20 Nov 2024, 01:35 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                                @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                                Odds it’ll catch again?

                                Polymarket has it at 77% or so.

                                Yeah I want to know which side the SpaceX engineers put their money on.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  20 Nov 2024, 01:35

                                  @George-K said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                                  @89th said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                                  Odds it’ll catch again?

                                  Polymarket has it at 77% or so.

                                  Yeah I want to know which side the SpaceX engineers put their money on.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 20 Nov 2024, 01:38 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in SpaceX to launch Starship 6 tomorrow at 4 EST:

                                  Yeah I want to know which side the SpaceX engineers put their money on.

                                  Interesting question considering they've already done it once.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 20 Nov 2024, 02:25 last edited by
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                                    I’ll be curious why they chose to scuttle it out to the gulf. Was it not on the right descending trajectory?

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 04:03 last edited by
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                                      Volume up.

                                      Buoy cam as it landed in the Indian Ocean. How cool.

                                      Link to video

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                                      • 8 89th
                                        27 Nov 2024, 04:03

                                        Volume up.

                                        Buoy cam as it landed in the Indian Ocean. How cool.

                                        Link to video

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 13:33 last edited by
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                                        @89th That is ver cool. Does the spaceship just float there in the water until it can be recovered?

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