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Polling misses by state

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    The recent Iowa poll from Selzer which showed Harris in the lead. IA just called for Trump.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Iowa was an embarrassment...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        I listened to an interview with Selzer yesterday and she was adamant and giddy that it was meaningful.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          I think as a whole it’s going to be underpolling Trump 4.5-5%

          The Brad

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            I've never been polled, but I would be very inclined to lie, if I ever was.

            Education is extremely important.

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              @jon-nyc mentioned the poll showing Harris winning the Puerto Rican county in PA? Trump won by 20.

              The Brad

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                The culture has gone meta on polling. And with high status lefties stuck in their perpetual bubbles, they are absolutely blind to reality, with no way to see it.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  OTOH, it seemed like the exit polling was fairly accurate.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    OTOH, it seemed like the exit polling was fairly accurate.

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                    @Jolly said in Polling misses by state:

                    OTOH, it seemed like the exit polling was fairly accurate.

                    Not Fox’s

                    The Brad

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      I listened to an interview with Selzer yesterday and she was adamant and giddy that it was meaningful.

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                      @Horace said in Polling misses by state:

                      I listened to an interview with Selzer yesterday and she was adamant and giddy that it was meaningful.

                      https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/11/17/ann-selzer-conducts-iowa-poll-ending-election-polling-moving-to-other-opportunities/76334909007/

                      Over a year ago I advised the Register I would not renew when my 2024 contract expired with the latest election poll as I transition to other ventures and opportunities.

                      Would I have liked to make this announcement after a final poll aligned with Election Day results? Of course. It’s ironic that it’s just the opposite. I am proud of the work I’ve done for the Register, for the Detroit Free Press, for the Indianapolis Star, for Bloomberg News and for other public and private organizations interested in elections. They were great clients and were happy with my work.

                      More:An update from the editor: What a review of the pre-election Iowa Poll has found

                      There were shocking polls for each, to be sure. In the end, my findings looked good. Over 30 years of polling led to an A+ rating in Nate Silver’s analysis of pollsters’ track records of accuracy. I earned that rating in Silver’s first list, and my grade never dropped. Maybe that history of accuracy made the outlier position too comfortable.

                      Polling is a science of estimation, and science has a way of periodically humbling the scientist. So, I’m humbled, yet always willing to learn from unexpected findings.

                      My work will continue for current clients and for clients yet to come. In addition, I’m thinking about how to put other talents to work for the benefit of new clients.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Well spoken, Curly Bill.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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