January 6 pardons
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wrote on 11 Nov 2024, 21:02 last edited by
Trump has said he'll pardon Jan 6 rioters on a case by case basis.
I will appreciate the sunlight this will apply to each of those case by case cases. I want more clarity about what people did, and how harshly they were sentenced.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2024, 22:33 last edited by
I think it's going to be a mixture of pardons and commutations. If you were violent and damaged property, or hurt someone, I wouldn't expect a lot...Unless your sentence was waaay out of line. The guys who had sentences based on the stretching of the Enron obstruction law, that SCOTUS struck down...Those guys get the most gravy. Everybody else is in the middle.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 08:01 last edited by
From VP Pence
“I don’t think the president should pardon anyone who assaulted a police officer at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6,” the former vice president said at The Dispatch’s Summit 2024, according to a tweet shared by the outlet on Tuesday.
“Karen and I are literally praying that President-elect Trump and Vice President-elect Vance will stand on the commitments that they will make when they raise their right hands on that day,” he added. “And with God’s grace and the support of the American people, I believe they will.”
https://www.thewrap.com/mike-pence-jan-6-doesnt-think-trump-should-pardon-rioters/
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wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 12:56 last edited by
Case by case. I don’t expect anybody who was violent that day to be pardoned. Someone who meandered into the Capitol amid the chaos and is paying a life destroying price for it? Maybe. I look forward to any case by case education we will receive.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 13:42 last edited by
Anyone who respected the velvet ropes might be considered pardonable. If you carried something out, like a podium, then, no.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 14:01 last edited by
Makes sense. If you entered through an open door, didn't assault anyone, didn't steal anything, and didn't go into unauthorized areas, then there should be no charges IMO.
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Makes sense. If you entered through an open door, didn't assault anyone, didn't steal anything, and didn't go into unauthorized areas, then there should be no charges IMO.
wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 14:12 last edited by@89th said in January 6 pardons:
Makes sense. If you entered through an open door, didn't assault anyone, didn't steal anything, and didn't go into unauthorized areas, then there should be no charges IMO.
Especially if the Capitol Police escorted you.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 14:30 last edited by
Yeah, the overreaction by the courts is palpable. It doesn't mean no one should be charged, but those held for months when they ALL voluntarily left the premises? That's criminal.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2024, 14:37 last edited by
And I think that's why Jan 6 did not stick politically. It was a riot. It was bad. It was not an insurrection and democracy was not in danger.
People saw the kabuki theater which was the Jan 6 commission and they looked at what was done to rioters in the BLM and Antifa riots, and they knew that justice was not evenly administered.