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  • 89th8 Online
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    89th
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    #24

    Missing context since she's talking about recidivism there but ok. I'm not a Harris fan but you almost make me want to become one with your cherry picking, George!

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    • 89th8 89th

      Missing context since she's talking about recidivism there but ok. I'm not a Harris fan but you almost make me want to become one with your cherry picking, George!

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      George K
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      #25

      @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

      Missing context

      https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clip-harris-calling-young-people-stupid-lacks-context-2024-07-26/

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

        I liked his follow-up question after she finished reciting her talking points about how Trump is an unconscionable existential threat. "But he has the support of about 50% of the country. What do you think of those people? Are they stupid? Are they evil?" It's the unanswered and unanswerable question, I mean until you catch a TDS sufferer in an unguarded moment, when they'll admit that yes, those supporters are actually stupid and/or evil.

        I only saw a clip or two. Her answer there I thought was fine... that she would never call American citizens stupid, unlike Trump who called many the enemy within. Then Baier thought he had a gotcha moment by playing a clip of Trump addressing that claim, to which Harris had her best moment calling that BS out. In short, in my words, she was saying that clip is like showing a bully in a principal's office being asked if he said mean things about students, and the bully saying "no", whereas Fox could've shown the actual times Trump has said such things about the "enemy within".

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        @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

        @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

        I liked his follow-up question after she finished reciting her talking points about how Trump is an unconscionable existential threat. "But he has the support of about 50% of the country. What do you think of those people? Are they stupid? Are they evil?" It's the unanswered and unanswerable question, I mean until you catch a TDS sufferer in an unguarded moment, when they'll admit that yes, those supporters are actually stupid and/or evil.

        I only saw a clip or two. Her answer there I thought was fine... that she would never call American citizens stupid,

        Anybody can just flat out deny something. I wouldn't call that a fine response. The response one would look for there, is some description of the mindset of a Trump voter that doesn't include stupidity or evil. This is the Achilles heel of the TDS sufferer. They can't think of any such description.

        unlike Trump who called many the enemy within. Then Baier thought he had a gotcha moment by playing a clip of Trump addressing that claim, to which Harris had her best moment calling that BS out. In short, in my words, she was saying that clip is like showing a bully in a principal's office being asked if he said mean things about students, and the bully saying "no", whereas Fox could've shown the actual times Trump has said such things about the "enemy within".

        Oh, so a flat denial from Trump is actually bad. It's just flat denials from Harris that are fine. I get it.

        Enemy from within? It's so nebulous. Certain a vein of cultural self-hatred runs deeply in the left, it is where they get their anti-colonialism, and anti-nationalism attitudes from. This culminates in such pinnacles of insanity as "gays for Palestine".

        Education is extremely important.

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          Enemy from within, may also refer to the creeping socialism and communism from many on the Far Left.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

            @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

            I liked his follow-up question after she finished reciting her talking points about how Trump is an unconscionable existential threat. "But he has the support of about 50% of the country. What do you think of those people? Are they stupid? Are they evil?" It's the unanswered and unanswerable question, I mean until you catch a TDS sufferer in an unguarded moment, when they'll admit that yes, those supporters are actually stupid and/or evil.

            I only saw a clip or two. Her answer there I thought was fine... that she would never call American citizens stupid,

            Anybody can just flat out deny something. I wouldn't call that a fine response. The response one would look for there, is some description of the mindset of a Trump voter that doesn't include stupidity or evil. This is the Achilles heel of the TDS sufferer. They can't think of any such description.

            unlike Trump who called many the enemy within. Then Baier thought he had a gotcha moment by playing a clip of Trump addressing that claim, to which Harris had her best moment calling that BS out. In short, in my words, she was saying that clip is like showing a bully in a principal's office being asked if he said mean things about students, and the bully saying "no", whereas Fox could've shown the actual times Trump has said such things about the "enemy within".

            Oh, so a flat denial from Trump is actually bad. It's just flat denials from Harris that are fine. I get it.

            Enemy from within? It's so nebulous. Certain a vein of cultural self-hatred runs deeply in the left, it is where they get their anti-colonialism, and anti-nationalism attitudes from. This culminates in such pinnacles of insanity as "gays for Palestine".

            89th8 Online
            89th8 Online
            89th
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            #28

            @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

            Oh, so a flat denial from Trump is actually bad. It's just flat denials from Harris that are fine. I get it.

            Indeed if Harris has repeatedly called Trump supporters dumb, then you are right. Until then, Fox playing a clip of Trump in the principal's office denying what he said on video during recess multiple times as proof of what Trump says... is beyond gullible.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Enemy from within, may also refer to the creeping socialism and communism from many on the Far Left.

              89th8 Online
              89th8 Online
              89th
              wrote on last edited by
              #29

              @Jolly said in Kwestions for Kamala:

              Enemy from within, may also refer to the creeping socialism and communism from many on the Far Left.

              In Trump's defense... being communist is still illegal here, right? Not that the 50's law is enforced anymore.

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                #30

                So what are the odds she goes on Rogan, now?

                The Brad

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                  Oh, so a flat denial from Trump is actually bad. It's just flat denials from Harris that are fine. I get it.

                  Indeed if Harris has repeatedly called Trump supporters dumb, then you are right. Until then, Fox playing a clip of Trump in the principal's office denying what he said on video during recess multiple times as proof of what Trump says... is beyond gullible.

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                  @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                  Indeed if Harris has repeatedly called Trump supporters dumb, then you are right.

                  I will take direct implications and painfully obvious attitudes from her vocal supporters, as tantamount to repeated claims. TDS has always been logically incompatible with a graceful or good-faith understanding of those who support Trump.

                  Until then, Fox playing a clip of Trump in the principal's office denying what he said on video during recess multiple times as proof of what Trump says... is beyond gullible.

                  I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    So what are the odds she goes on Rogan, now?

                    89th8 Online
                    89th8 Online
                    89th
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #32

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                    So what are the odds she goes on Rogan, now?

                    Oh man that would be fun. Better odds than going on Shapiro

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                      So what are the odds she goes on Rogan, now?

                      Oh man that would be fun. Better odds than going on Shapiro

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                      So what are the odds she goes on Rogan, now?

                      Oh man that would be fun. Better odds than going on Shapiro

                      No, she actually floated the idea. My guess is that’s over.

                      The Brad

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                        Indeed if Harris has repeatedly called Trump supporters dumb, then you are right.

                        I will take direct implications and painfully obvious attitudes from her vocal supporters, as tantamount to repeated claims. TDS has always been logically incompatible with a graceful or good-faith understanding of those who support Trump.

                        Until then, Fox playing a clip of Trump in the principal's office denying what he said on video during recess multiple times as proof of what Trump says... is beyond gullible.

                        I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                        89th8 Online
                        89th8 Online
                        89th
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #34

                        @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                        I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                        Not really... the topic in the interview was Trump saying he would use police, national guard, and what not to take care of American citizens who disagreed with him (far left, communists, anti-tanning spray activists), and so Baier said "oh but Kamala, we asked Trump about this and he denied it" and her (logical) reaction was "hold up bro... you showed the part where he denied it, but didn't show the videos where he actually said it." So my whole point here is... she was right to call out Fox on that lazy approach to defend Donald.

                        I'd say the same thing if the inverse happened. If Trump was on MSNBC and said that Kamala called college kids stupid, and then MSNBC shows a clip of Kamala saying "I never said that", you'd be like... WTF, show the clip where she did say that, not the lazy excuse/denial clip.

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                          Ok, so Trump made a serious claim that he'd call in the military to presumably kill, as enemy combatants, people with left-leaning ideologies. And the serious person takes him serious. While the gullible person believes him when he denies that he seriously said that. Ok then. I guess I'll go ahead and be gullible today. Maybe some Nigerian prince will email me, it's perfect timing for them.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                            I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                            Not really... the topic in the interview was Trump saying he would use police, national guard, and what not to take care of American citizens who disagreed with him (far left, communists, anti-tanning spray activists), and so Baier said "oh but Kamala, we asked Trump about this and he denied it" and her (logical) reaction was "hold up bro... you showed the part where he denied it, but didn't show the videos where he actually said it." So my whole point here is... she was right to call out Fox on that lazy approach to defend Donald.

                            I'd say the same thing if the inverse happened. If Trump was on MSNBC and said that Kamala called college kids stupid, and then MSNBC shows a clip of Kamala saying "I never said that", you'd be like... WTF, show the clip where she did say that, not the lazy excuse/denial clip.

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                            @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                            @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                            I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                            Not really... the topic in the interview was Trump saying he would use police, national guard, and what not to take care of American citizens who disagreed with him (far left, communists, anti-tanning spray activists), and so Baier said "oh but Kamala, we asked Trump about this and he denied it" and her (logical) reaction was "hold up bro... you showed the part where he denied it, but didn't show the videos where he actually said it." So my whole point here is... she was right to call out Fox on that lazy approach to defend Donald.

                            I'd say the same thing if the inverse happened. If Trump was on MSNBC and said that Kamala called college kids stupid, and then MSNBC shows a clip of Kamala saying "I never said that", you'd be like... WTF, show the clip where she did say that, not the lazy excuse/denial clip.

                            No, the topic goes back to riot/protests if he’s elected.

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              If we see riots in DC similar to what we saw in January, 2017 don’t expect them to end peacefully.

                              The Brad

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                It’s like the whole Dictator on Day One claim.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                                  @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                                  I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                                  Not really... the topic in the interview was Trump saying he would use police, national guard, and what not to take care of American citizens who disagreed with him (far left, communists, anti-tanning spray activists), and so Baier said "oh but Kamala, we asked Trump about this and he denied it" and her (logical) reaction was "hold up bro... you showed the part where he denied it, but didn't show the videos where he actually said it." So my whole point here is... she was right to call out Fox on that lazy approach to defend Donald.

                                  I'd say the same thing if the inverse happened. If Trump was on MSNBC and said that Kamala called college kids stupid, and then MSNBC shows a clip of Kamala saying "I never said that", you'd be like... WTF, show the clip where she did say that, not the lazy excuse/denial clip.

                                  No, the topic goes back to riot/protests if he’s elected.

                                  89th8 Online
                                  89th8 Online
                                  89th
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                                  @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                                  @Horace said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                                  I'm not even sure what you're talking about, but I sense you're fixated on a certain framing of something Trump said that he then denied saying in another certain framing. Voters for the Democrat candidate were called "the enemy from within" by Trump? Is that it?

                                  Not really... the topic in the interview was Trump saying he would use police, national guard, and what not to take care of American citizens who disagreed with him (far left, communists, anti-tanning spray activists), and so Baier said "oh but Kamala, we asked Trump about this and he denied it" and her (logical) reaction was "hold up bro... you showed the part where he denied it, but didn't show the videos where he actually said it." So my whole point here is... she was right to call out Fox on that lazy approach to defend Donald.

                                  I'd say the same thing if the inverse happened. If Trump was on MSNBC and said that Kamala called college kids stupid, and then MSNBC shows a clip of Kamala saying "I never said that", you'd be like... WTF, show the clip where she did say that, not the lazy excuse/denial clip.

                                  No, the topic goes back to riot/protests if he’s elected.

                                  Admittedly I didn't watch the full interview. I was just agreeing that Fox's clip of Trump's denial was a lazy way to ignore Trump's rhetoric. And to your point, if the rhetoric was clear in the context of squashing riots, then overall that sounds good to me. I very much rooted for law enforcement punishing (as much as they legally could) those who defaced monuments and other damage during BLM... for sure.

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                                    Here’s the thing about Trump. He starts in one place, then goes all over the place in his next thoughts, then comes back to point in between. It can be hard to track.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Missing context since she's talking about recidivism there but ok. I'm not a Harris fan but you almost make me want to become one with your cherry picking, George!

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                                      George K
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                                      @89th said in Kwestions for Kamala:

                                      Missing context since she's talking about recidivism there but ok

                                      I don't have @89th 's sleuthy skillz, but is she talking about recidivism in the other clips?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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