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Universal limit to technological development?

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    Is that why the galaxy is so quiet?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/why-haven-t-we-found-intelligent-alien-civilizations-there-may-be-a-universal-limit-to-technological-development/ar-AA1rXYRN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=99fa002de62b49bfa539081891b0191f&ei=43

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      If the light speed limit is unsurmountable, we're probably not going anywhere. Maybe J3H0V4H did it deliberately.

      I was only joking

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        LuFins Dad
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        Weird, normally it will allow me to read the story on the MSN page. This one is requiring the app.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Weird, normally it will allow me to read the story on the MSN page. This one is requiring the app.

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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          @LuFins-Dad said in Universal limit to technological development?:

          Weird, normally it will allow me to read the story on the MSN page. This one is requiring the app.

          Has happened to me before. Refresh the page and the ‘expand article’ button will appear.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Horace
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            This reminded me to do a youtube search for Robin Hanson. Generally there are new interviews or talks by him a few times a year. Here's one he did a month ago. I think he is probably the best thinker on this subject.

            Link to video

            Lately he been thinking about culture rather than aliens. He is a little dismayed that his insights into culture aren't as popular as his insights into aliens. Anyway, I can fully understand how someone trying to think about humanity in any sort of coherent way, inevitably focuses on culture.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @LuFins-Dad said in Universal limit to technological development?:

              Weird, normally it will allow me to read the story on the MSN page. This one is requiring the app.

              Has happened to me before. Refresh the page and the ‘expand article’ button will appear.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              @jon-nyc said in Universal limit to technological development?:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Universal limit to technological development?:

              Weird, normally it will allow me to read the story on the MSN page. This one is requiring the app.

              Has happened to me before. Refresh the page and the ‘expand article’ button will appear.

              Yeah, that’s how I got past it before. This time? Nope.

              The Brad

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                Try the immersive reader button. Up by the favorites star, looks like an open book.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  You chaps are wondering why we can't contact aliens and you're struggling to open a web-page 😂

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    If the light speed limit is unsurmountable, we're probably not going anywhere. Maybe J3H0V4H did it deliberately.

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                    Tom-K
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Universal limit to technological development?:

                    If the light speed limit is unsurmountable, we're probably not going anywhere.

                    Maybe for us--maybe not for others. The physical world that we know is llike a Bob Ross painting. There's the mountain, there's the cabin with smoke coming out of the chimney, there's the pine trees. But when you look around the edges there's the canvas and the tacks and the frame. The universe might be a lot more than these 5 random senses say it is.

                    Link to video

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                    • Tom-KT Tom-K

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Universal limit to technological development?:

                      If the light speed limit is unsurmountable, we're probably not going anywhere.

                      Maybe for us--maybe not for others. The physical world that we know is llike a Bob Ross painting. There's the mountain, there's the cabin with smoke coming out of the chimney, there's the pine trees. But when you look around the edges there's the canvas and the tacks and the frame. The universe might be a lot more than these 5 random senses say it is.

                      Link to video

                      MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      @Tom-K So you're saying we are one happy little accident away from interstellar conquest.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #11

                        On that note, another cheery thought..

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/we-may-only-ever-detect-signals-from-long-dead-alien-civilizations/ar-AA1rTH3s?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=70dacde2bf7c4ad1b0de1331e9289512&ei=25

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • Tom-KT Tom-K

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Universal limit to technological development?:

                          If the light speed limit is unsurmountable, we're probably not going anywhere.

                          Maybe for us--maybe not for others. The physical world that we know is llike a Bob Ross painting. There's the mountain, there's the cabin with smoke coming out of the chimney, there's the pine trees. But when you look around the edges there's the canvas and the tacks and the frame. The universe might be a lot more than these 5 random senses say it is.

                          Link to video

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                          George K
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                          @Tom-K Quicksilver Messenger Service was one of Jack Frost's favorite bands.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            Mine too at the time. First version of Who Do You Love I heard. Now I like George Thoroghgood’s.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Mine too at the time. First version of Who Do You Love I heard. Now I like George Thoroghgood’s.

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                              George K
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                              @Mik Shady Grove, the entire album was great.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Is that why the galaxy is so quiet?

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/why-haven-t-we-found-intelligent-alien-civilizations-there-may-be-a-universal-limit-to-technological-development/ar-AA1rXYRN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=99fa002de62b49bfa539081891b0191f&ei=43

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                                @Mik said in Universal limit to technological development?:

                                Is that why the galaxy is so quiet?

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/why-haven-t-we-found-intelligent-alien-civilizations-there-may-be-a-universal-limit-to-technological-development/ar-AA1rXYRN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=99fa002de62b49bfa539081891b0191f&ei=43

                                If anything, technological development has picked up speed rather than slowed down.

                                There's no evidence for a limit.

                                I find e/acc a more interesting hypothesis.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  On that note, another cheery thought..

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/we-may-only-ever-detect-signals-from-long-dead-alien-civilizations/ar-AA1rTH3s?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=70dacde2bf7c4ad1b0de1331e9289512&ei=25

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                                  @Mik said in Universal limit to technological development?:

                                  On that note, another cheery thought..

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/we-may-only-ever-detect-signals-from-long-dead-alien-civilizations/ar-AA1rTH3s?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=70dacde2bf7c4ad1b0de1331e9289512&ei=25

                                  If a civilization had the ability to search for signals from other planets even very recently, they would pass right by earth.

                                  I think that there is other (intelligent) life out there but it is such a rare thing. The dinosaurs were around for millions and millions of years, and never really "evolved". If they giant meteor had not crashed into earth, would they still be "in charge"?

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