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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #53

    Would have been better if he had tried to burn up a few NYC cops.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Would have been better if he had tried to burn up a few NYC cops.

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      jon-nyc
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      #54

      @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

      Would have been better if he had tried to burn up an empty NYC cop car.

      Indeed, it would have.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Jolly
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        #55

        Are those sentences with or without parole?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
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          #56

          I don’t know.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            Let me help you then.

            Federal sentences do not have parole.

            In New York, parole is dependent on whether the sentence is determinate or indeterminate. Depending on how our NYC lads were sentenced, they could be outnof jail in a few months.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @xenon said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @xenon said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @xenon said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @xenon said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              Around the 1:38 mark

              Link to video

              Thanks. I must admit to being caught off guard by the fact that the US Capitol is secured by frigging laminated glass.

              I also am surprised by the lack of tear gas, high pressure hoses, and other riot measures that weren’t impleme

              Not having riot gear at the Capitol has worked for hundreds of years so far.

              Not at all. They have it on site and have deployed it on hundreds of occasions.

              I think you're right. Just did some quick googling. Does show that the Capitol police is not very good at anticipating and quelling riots.

              Maybe the leaders and individual officers deserve to be replaced, but it's still not their fault.

              Maybe Pelosi should have listened to the Trump team when they offered troops.

              Yes, maybe they should have. But, maybe the Trump team should have told Trump that they told Pelosi the Capitol needed protection from his mob.

              I'll type slowly, so you can understand...Trump urged people to protest at the Capitol, but he urged them to protest peacefully.

              Since you don't believe that or are incapable of understanding simple English, I suggest two things:

              1. Google it up. The video is on the net.
              2. Pelosi is responsible for the security at the Capitol. Trump's team could offer troops, but they can't make Pelosi take them.

              Either Team Trump thought the mob was a riot risk or not. If it was a riot risk, then why send them to the Capitol? If they thought Trump's pleas for peaceful protest were enough to diffuse them, then why offer troops?

              It's not a good look for Team Trump that they knew beforehand that this group was a riot risk.

              You're letting your TDS get in the way of cogent thought. Many times, actions are taken on what might possibly happen. Not what people think will happen.

              The Trump Team estimated 15,000 people would be attending the rally. The National Park Service, in an internal memo, thought that number too low, and anticipated about 20,000.

              Regardless, even keeping in mind that 15K number, the Trump team offered the person in charge of security at the Capitol the use of troops, if she so wished. As evidenced by Ms. Pelosi's actions, she did not feel they were needed.

              Why should she? Contrary to Jon's constant denigration of all things MAGA, Trump rallies had never led to any type of widespread violence. Usually, they led to no violence at all. Usually, MAGA people left the grounds cleaner than when they came, which was and is, highly unusual. And usually, Trump supporters had a very good rapport with law enforcement.

              Instead of the crowd the Trump team expected, they got 250,000 people. Repeat, 250,000. Lots of pissed off people out there. Still lots of pissed off people out there, they've just learned to shut their mouths before the FBI swats them.

              The number of people who actually entered the Capitol ranged from 400 - 800 to a current number of possibly 1200. Forgive my Jethro Bodine cipherin', but that puts the nasty element of the crowd at 0.16% to 0.48%.

              So, now you're going to tell me that anybody can predict the actions of a few hundred people in a crowd of 250,000 people?

              Try this for a thought exercise...What if those 250,000 people had shown up in Washington with mayhem on the agenda, carrying firearms, molotov cocktails and other destructive devices? What would have been the outcome?

              Doesn't matter how many cops you had, or even how many troops you had, they'd have burned the Capitol to the ground and hung every damn Demonrat on Capitol Hill. Probably a few Republicans for good measure.

              But none of that happened.

              It didn't happen, because the vast majority of those folks at the rally, 99.9% to 99.6% were law-abiding Americans who did not trust the 2020 election results, and peacefully protested what they thought was a massive election crime.

              There are lot of January 6 questions still out there, that the hand-picked committee members of the Politburo didn't want answered, because they didn't fit the political narrative they wanted to craft.

              To be honest, I'm not even sure if those answers are worth seeking, since the MSM and Big tech will do their best to make sure Joe Sixpack never hears them. And as long as he keeps sitting on his couch, watching the Kardashians and letting the local ballot harvester mail in his vote, he wouldn't even care that he didn't know the Truth.

              Bread & circuses, lad. Tends to work evrytime, especially if your side is the only one with a bullhorn.

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              taiwan_girl
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              #58

              NOTE: THIS IS A RESURECT OF AN OLD THREAD!!

              @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

              Usually, MAGA people left the grounds cleaner than when they came,

              Well, maybe not. From the recent Pennsylvania rally

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                jon-nyc
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                #59

                Note however not a spec of necrotic flesh anywhere to be found.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Why, was one of your old girlfriends at the rally?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    NOTE: THIS IS A RESURECT OF AN OLD THREAD!!

                    @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                    Usually, MAGA people left the grounds cleaner than when they came,

                    Well, maybe not. From the recent Pennsylvania rally

                    alt text

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #61

                    @taiwan_girl said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                    NOTE: THIS IS A RESURECT OF AN OLD THREAD!!

                    @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                    Usually, MAGA people left the grounds cleaner than when they came,

                    Well, maybe not. From the recent Pennsylvania rally

                    alt text

                    Yeah, a bunch of absolute assholes. 60,000 people singing God Bless America spontaneously. Cheering for the widow of a dead fireman and for the other gunshot victims of that assassination attempt who came back to this rally.

                    Yep, absolute assholes...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      #62

                      To be fair, those mostly look like empty water bottles. Temps were in the low 80s I think. I've seen much worse from the left (and both sides), but agree that MAGA usually leave things pretty clean.

                      BTW I did see a nice conspiracy video earlier today that basically made it clear that Trump was never shot in the ear. Let's talk about that... the bullet whizzed by but the only blood was from Trump's mouth after he hit his teeth as he was being tackled by secret service. I don't really care, but wonder if the bandage at the RNC (convention) was just for show.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        To be fair, those mostly look like empty water bottles. Temps were in the low 80s I think. I've seen much worse from the left (and both sides), but agree that MAGA usually leave things pretty clean.

                        BTW I did see a nice conspiracy video earlier today that basically made it clear that Trump was never shot in the ear. Let's talk about that... the bullet whizzed by but the only blood was from Trump's mouth after he hit his teeth as he was being tackled by secret service. I don't really care, but wonder if the bandage at the RNC (convention) was just for show.

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                        #63

                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                        To be fair, those mostly look like empty water bottles. Temps were in the low 80s I think. I've seen much worse from the left (and both sides), but agree that MAGA usually leave things pretty clean.

                        BTW I did see a nice conspiracy video earlier today that basically made it clear that Trump was never shot in the ear. Let's talk about that... the bullet whizzed by but the only blood was from Trump's mouth after he hit his teeth as he was being tackled by secret service. I don't really care, but wonder if the bandage at the RNC (convention) was just for show.

                        It's not that hard to play up getting shot at when you were actually shot at.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Does the theory explain the hole in his ear?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            To be fair, those mostly look like empty water bottles. Temps were in the low 80s I think. I've seen much worse from the left (and both sides), but agree that MAGA usually leave things pretty clean.

                            BTW I did see a nice conspiracy video earlier today that basically made it clear that Trump was never shot in the ear. Let's talk about that... the bullet whizzed by but the only blood was from Trump's mouth after he hit his teeth as he was being tackled by secret service. I don't really care, but wonder if the bandage at the RNC (convention) was just for show.

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                            @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                            To be fair, those mostly look like empty water bottles. Temps were in the low 80s I think. I've seen much worse from the left (and both sides), but agree that MAGA usually leave things pretty clean.

                            BTW I did see a nice conspiracy video earlier today that basically made it clear that Trump was never shot in the ear. Let's talk about that... the bullet whizzed by but the only blood was from Trump's mouth after he hit his teeth as he was being tackled by secret service. I don't really care, but wonder if the bandage at the RNC (convention) was just for show.

                            The guy was treated at the emergency room. The physician’s report was made public.

                            The Brad

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                              89th
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                                89th
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                                He has a hole in his ear, @Jolly ?

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                                  Horace
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                                  Just another miracle.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    That image is from 2 weeks after the shooting.

                                    BTW I am kidding... mostly 😉 If I look closely do I see a very small indent at the top where he was grazed, I believe.

                                    @LuFins-Dad I wasn't aware that the ER/hospital/doctor released his report other than at statement that he was treated for his injury or something.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      He has a hole in his ear, @Jolly ?

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                      He has a hole in his ear, @Jolly ?

                                      The ear canal.

                                      Education is important.

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                                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        He has a hole in his ear, @Jolly ?

                                        The ear canal.

                                        Education is important.

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                                        Horace
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                                        @Axtremus said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        He has a hole in his ear, @Jolly ?

                                        The ear canal.

                                        Education is important.

                                        Eustachian tube, you scientific illiterate.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          It's an earhole, not a freaking canal or a tube.

                                          You wouldn't call his asshole the alimentary canal, would you?

                                          I was only joking

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