*Another* Trump indictment

[taiwan_girl]

Exactly. Just putting some perspective on what President Trump is (rightly or wrongly) going through.

[89th]

@Jolly said in *Another* Trump indictment:

It shouldn't have to get to a slap-down, to be considered working.

You do realize the government caused the defendant a mountain of money before Smith got bitch slapped?

You're ok with that? Is that the system working? The " we don't care about what's right or wrong, as long as the government wins or bankrupts the defendant?

Really,?

What are you talking about? I care about what is right, I don't care "which side wins". Maybe this is the difference. I'd be just as happy if Trump was found not guilty of the 46 felony charges, as long as the system worked to enforce the law.

[Jolly]

@89th said in *Another* Trump indictment:

@Jolly said in *Another* Trump indictment:

It shouldn't have to get to a slap-down, to be considered working.

You do realize the government caused the defendant a mountain of money before Smith got bitch slapped?

You're ok with that? Is that the system working? The " we don't care about what's right or wrong, as long as the government wins or bankrupts the defendant?

Really,?

What are you talking about? I care about what is right, I don't care "which side wins". Maybe this is the difference. I'd be just as happy if Trump was found not guilty of the 46 felony charges, as long as the system worked to enforce the law.

Guess what? The people engaged in lawfare would like to see him in jail, but that's not why this is happening. This is a coordinated, legal maneuver to bring political hurt.

1. It's taking more money than you'll make in a lifetime to mount a defense. Yes, Trump will raise money for his defense and some of that money will come out of his pocket. Money is the mother's milk of a national political campaign, just ask Scranton Joe.

2. Time. How much time has Trump spent in a courtroom or meeting lawyers, when he should be campaigning or raising money? Multiple, simultaneous court cases are a huge time sink.

3. Why were all these cases filed within a very short span? Why were they filed at the start of the campaign? Why were they filed at all?

4. Perception. The Dems desperately wanted a conviction, even if they know it will be overturned. The labels don't have to last forever, just past the second Tuesday in November.

If you value freedom from the tyranny of the courts, if you value the American concept of fair play, if you value the ability to have free and fair elections, then why can't you see this for what it is, regardless of your personal feelings about Trump?

For let me assure you, once the genie is out of the bottle, this does not end here. Successful tactics will be used in politics until they are no longer successful. And we take another step into the abyss...

[89th]

If only there was another way for Trump to stay out of the courts...

[Jolly]

@89th said in *Another* Trump indictment:

If only there was another way for Trump to stay out of the courts...

There's not going to be, my young idiot.

Do you not understand? Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.

[Tom-K]

All this is doing is making the United States look like a Third World country.

[Horace]

@89th said in *Another* Trump indictment:

@Jolly said in *Another* Trump indictment:

It shouldn't have to get to a slap-down, to be considered working.

You do realize the government caused the defendant a mountain of money before Smith got bitch slapped?

You're ok with that? Is that the system working? The " we don't care about what's right or wrong, as long as the government wins or bankrupts the defendant?

Really,?

What are you talking about? I care about what is right, I don't care "which side wins". Maybe this is the difference. I'd be just as happy if Trump was found not guilty of the 46 felony charges, as long as the system worked to enforce the law.

Prosecutorial discretion makes all the difference in law enforcement. Both sides realize this, from information in different contexts. The prosecutions of Trump or Jan 6 rioters on the right, "mass incarceration of minorities" on the left. Both are thought to be the product of biased prosecutorial discretion. The left does something about it by appointing and electing prosecutors whose explicit platforms are to go easy on criminals. They also happen to elect or appoint prosecutors with explicit platforms to go hard on Trump.

[taiwan_girl]

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

The filing includes an 80-page summary of the evidence gathered by investigators

Here is the full filing:

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2024/10/gov.uscourts.dcd_.258148.252.0.pdf

[jon-nyc]

There’s some good stuff in there I’ll bet.

[Jolly]

On day one, I guess Trump fires Jack Shit.

[89th]

No amount of evidence at this point will make it obvious what Trump did was un-American and immoral. Trump verbalizes his own reality, it has helped him succeed in business, it has also led to dozens of bankruptcies. It helped him win in 2016, and helped him and the GOP lose in 2018, 2020, 2022, and likely 2024.

Again, imagine if Obama had done all that.

[Jolly]

And what happens if he wins in November?

[89th]

He'll break the losing streak LOL