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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #2270

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinion-another-russian-mercenary-leader-has-turned-against-putin/ar-AA1pgrO4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=e0e6e0cc3dc743bcb010f5b72e4b2d90&ei=12

    Here’s Zakrevsky’s diatribe against Putin, in my translation:

    “Our country is not just on the brink of disaster or already right next to it; our country is already in trouble. In big trouble. Drones are flying all over central Russia, right up to Moscow and St. Petersburg. They even attacked the Kremlin. Our Black Sea fleet is being pushed out. It’s being pushed out as if we were not a great power with a great fleet, but some third-rate country.

    “Our air force is practically not working because it is also being pushed out. We are standing in the same positions that we took more than two years ago, and partly in those to which we retreated. The population is dying out, becoming impoverished, drinking itself to death: no one cares. All they have time to do is bring in migrants.”

    Zakrevsky minces no words in assigning blame for this sad state of affairs: “And all this was done by the so-called ‘president.’ The ‘Great’ Putin.”

    After accusing army officers of incompetence and worse, Zakrevsky concludes his screed with an appeal “to those who are in the trenches. You know very well what kind of indecency is happening there now….You know very well the faces that are mocking you and your relatives…. We call on everyone to join our union to save our country. The point of no return has already been passed.”

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #2271

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #2272

        Morale...

        https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/08/europe/ukraine-military-morale-desertion-intl-cmd/index.html

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #2273

          144 Drones say hello to Moscow.

          https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-destroys-ukraine-launched-drone-flying-towards-moscow-mayor-says-2024-09-09/

          Ukraine struck the Moscow region on Tuesday in its biggest drone attack so far on the Russian capital, killing at least one woman, wrecking dozens of homes and forcing around 50 flights to be diverted from airports around Moscow.

          Russia, the world's biggest nuclear power, said it had destroyed at least 20 Ukrainian attack drones as they swarmed over the Moscow region, which has a population of more than 21 million, and 124 more over eight other regions.

          At least one person was killed near Moscow, Russian authorities said. Three of Moscow's four airports were closed for more than six hours and almost 50 flights were diverted.

          Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters that the drone attack was another reminder of the real nature of Ukraine's political leadership, which he said was made up of Russia's enemies.

          "There is no way that night time strikes on residential neighbourhoods can be associated with military action," said Peskov.

          Oh....

          Kyiv said Russia, which sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine in February 2022, had attacked it overnight with 46 drones, of which 38 were destroyed.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • W Offline
            W Offline
            Wim
            wrote on last edited by
            #2274

            Kursk incursion: a gamechanger?
            https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/14/frontline-report-russian-forces-finally-sacrifice-pokrovsk-offensive-to-defend-kursk/

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #2275

              In the short run, yes.

              Long run, no.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • W Offline
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                Wim
                wrote on last edited by
                #2276

                Badaboom!

                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39151

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                • W Wim

                  Badaboom!

                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39151

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2277

                  @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Badaboom!

                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39151

                  Perfectly legitimate military target well inside Russia.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2278

                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/vikrammittal/2024/09/22/ukraine-is-now-able-to-produce-155mm-artillery-shells-and-howitzers/

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2279

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-final-countdown-in-ukraine/ar-AA1rhrzG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=632f749509eb435cb33e61d3f9b0dca4&ei=28

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2280

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-to-deploy-more-soldiers-to-ukraine-after-reported-deaths-seoul/ar-AA1rTxvR?ocid=BingNewsSerp

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2281

                          The DPRK is not doing just because the goodness of their heart. There is some payment from Russia to North Korea for the troops.

                          (As a side note, there is actually a large number of DPRK citizens working in the Russia logging industry. If you think that Haitian immigrants are treated badly, check out the life of a DPRK logger in Russia.)

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2282

                            Russian recruits are mature:

                            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/10/09/russias-army-recruits-are-increasingly-older-less-capable-men-vyorstka-a86622

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2283

                              Russians are ready to end it. I suspect that if 31% will answer in the affirmative the number that really feels that way is greater.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-show-growing-support-for-ending-war-on-ukraine-s-terms/ar-AA1s3faW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=40b93f88430b474b92473bac7ddddc7c&ei=21

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Russians are ready to end it. I suspect that if 31% will answer in the affirmative the number that really feels that way is greater.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-show-growing-support-for-ending-war-on-ukraine-s-terms/ar-AA1s3faW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=40b93f88430b474b92473bac7ddddc7c&ei=21

                                RenaudaR Offline
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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #2284

                                @Mik

                                If the Kremlin were to acquiesce to or propose such, it would turn out to be a Trojan Horse.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2285

                                  Could be.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2286

                                    Russian stealth drone Okhotnik (The Hunter) gone astray:

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qv3lnqy0vo

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                                      #2287

                                      Oh oh. I have no idea if the Kyiv Independent is a credible soutce or not.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-considering-ceding-territory-to-end-war-with-russia-der-spiegel-reports/ar-AA1scBww?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=bb5a9956c7784914a871f34d18254332&ei=57

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • W Offline
                                        W Offline
                                        Wim
                                        wrote on last edited by Wim
                                        #2288

                                        I don't know about Kyiv Indepents' reliability.
                                        However, it is obvious that Ukraine is considering all options, knowing the US are a lame duck for now. And Hungary's Orban, is into foul play by litterally sabotaging European fund schemes.

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                                        • W Offline
                                          W Offline
                                          Wim
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2289

                                          Russian ruble imploding?

                                          https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40513

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