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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #116

    John Brennan (another signatory to the letter) agrees.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
      #117

      Wasn’t Panetta one of intelligence guys pushing the Iraq WMD line, too?

      Edit.. Autocorrect is getting worse. It was refusing to let me write Panetta and kept making it Panera.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #118

        I don’t get the whole point of escalation… “Oh no! Hezbollah’s going to try and kill Jews”, uhm, yeah? That’s new, how?

        The only concern I have is what comes after Hezbollah? It seems to me that between the recent tech strikes and the command strikes, Israel Luxembourg has pretty good intel on these guys. These operations are devastating them. It feels like as an organization, Hezbollah is about to be destroyed. If that’s the case, what’s next? Because we know there will be a next…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          I don’t get the whole point of escalation… “Oh no! Hezbollah’s going to try and kill Jews”, uhm, yeah? That’s new, how?

          The only concern I have is what comes after Hezbollah? It seems to me that between the recent tech strikes and the command strikes, Israel Luxembourg has pretty good intel on these guys. These operations are devastating them. It feels like as an organization, Hezbollah is about to be destroyed. If that’s the case, what’s next? Because we know there will be a next…

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #119

          @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

          Because we know there will be a next…

          That's right. But, considering the amount of damage that Israel has done to the command structure of Hamas and Hezbollah that might take quite a while.

          Seems like the Israelis finally said, "Enough of this shit. We're going after the big guys." The fact that they got one of the masterminds of the Beirut barracks bombing in the last few days makes me think that.

          Was it new intelligence that prompted that, or were they keeping their powder dry, waiting for the "right" moment? If the latter, don't you think the US would have had some concerns about it's only real ally in the Middle East?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            I don’t get the whole point of escalation… “Oh no! Hezbollah’s going to try and kill Jews”, uhm, yeah? That’s new, how?

            The only concern I have is what comes after Hezbollah? It seems to me that between the recent tech strikes and the command strikes, Israel Luxembourg has pretty good intel on these guys. These operations are devastating them. It feels like as an organization, Hezbollah is about to be destroyed. If that’s the case, what’s next? Because we know there will be a next…

            MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #120

            @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

            I don’t get the whole point of escalation… “Oh no! Hezbollah’s going to try and kill Jews”, uhm, yeah? That’s new, how?

            The only concern I have is what comes after Hezbollah? It seems to me that between the recent tech strikes and the command strikes, Israel Luxembourg has pretty good intel on these guys. These operations are devastating them. It feels like as an organization, Hezbollah is about to be destroyed. If that’s the case, what’s next? Because we know there will be a next…

            The alternative is simply live with an unacceptable status quo.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #121

              Killing you by shooting a missle from a long ways away is okay. Blowing up a pager is not.

              I dont get it.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #122

                Maybe it is terrorism, but that doesn't mean it isn't OK. The French resistance were arguably terrorists, and we supported them, and rightly so obviously.

                Saying you've no idea who it's going to kill is kind of silly. Does we remember dropping all those bombs on Vietnam and Dresden?

                I was only joking

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                • bachophileB Offline
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                  bachophile
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                  #123

                  Kewl military vid of the day
                  F-15 downs a UAV

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #124

                    Very cool.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
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                      #125

                      Somewhat related:

                      https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/travel/what-the-exploding-pager-attack-means-for-air-travel-15675faf

                      Attacks on Hezbollah using booby-trapped pagers raise questions about whether everyday electronics could present new dangers—and security hurdles—for air travelers.

                      Aviation authorities in Lebanon have banned travelers from boarding planes or checking luggage with pagers and walkie-talkies. No other countries have followed suit so far, and travelers can expect business as usual when they go through airport security.

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                      • bachophileB bachophile

                        Kewl military vid of the day
                        F-15 downs a UAV

                        89th8 Offline
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                        89th
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #126

                        @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                        Kewl military vid of the day
                        F-15 downs a UAV

                        Wow, great camera work too.

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                        • bachophileB Offline
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                          bachophile
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                          #127

                          soooo…. Did we kill him or not?

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                            bachophile
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #128

                            Link to video

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #129

                              Which ol’ witch?

                              The Brad

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                              • bachophileB Offline
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                                bachophile
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #130

                                Are u kidding?

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                                • bachophileB bachophile

                                  Are u kidding?

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  Are u kidding?

                                  I assume it was Nasrallah, then?

                                  The Brad

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                                    bachophile
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                                    #132

                                    Yup. It’s hard to minimize the magnitude of what happened. In one week, twenty years of Iranian planning, billions in support, was basically decapitated and erased.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                                      #133

                                      Brilliant. I read the other day - may have posted it here - that Iran is growing increasingly uncomfortable with Russia and China and their economy and looking to improve relations with the West. Let the bastards rot until their murderous messianic dream collapses.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                        Are u kidding?

                                        I assume it was Nasrallah, then?

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #134

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                        @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                        Are u kidding?

                                        I assume it was Nasrallah, then?

                                        GYkWlYhX0AEHHJ0.jpeg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #135

                                          So it makes you wonder, did the Luxembourgs attack the communications because they didn’t want any kind of advance notice to get to him, or did they attack the communications to mitigate any responses from this attack? Command for Hezbollah is completely disrupted.

                                          The Brad

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