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    Jolly
    wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:29 last edited by
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    Interesting...

    https://blog.archive.org/2020/07/22/libraries-have-been-bringing-older-books-to-digital-learners-four-publishers-sue-to-stop-it/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:49 last edited by
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      Interesting. If i read correctly, they are only lending an equal number to the actual books they own? I dont understand why that would be a problem.

      I think that there would be some sort of background they could use from the music industry.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 02:10 last edited by Jolly
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        What happens, is that libraries will give them books they have purchased, many of which are public domain, some which are not. They lend the digital books for 14 days, and then the book is no longer readable on your device or your download (unless borrowed again. If someone is waiting for the book, you can't serially borrow the book.

        Or, that's how I understand it....

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          29 Jul 2020, 02:10

          What happens, is that libraries will give them books they have purchased, many of which are public domain, some which are not. They lend the digital books for 14 days, and then the book is no longer readable on your device or your download (unless borrowed again. If someone is waiting for the book, you can't serially borrow the book.

          Or, that's how I understand it....

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 14:11 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in The Suit:

          What happens, is that libraries will give them books they have purchased, many of which are public domain, some which are not. They lend the digital books for 14 days, and then the book is no longer readable on your device or your download (unless borrowed again. If someone is waiting for the book, you can't serially borrow the book.

          Or, that's how I understand it....

          Makes sense. I do download books from my library sometimes and I think that is how it works. If it is public domain book, then the publisher should not be complaining at all.

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          • J Jolly
            29 Jul 2020, 02:10

            What happens, is that libraries will give them books they have purchased, many of which are public domain, some which are not. They lend the digital books for 14 days, and then the book is no longer readable on your device or your download (unless borrowed again. If someone is waiting for the book, you can't serially borrow the book.

            Or, that's how I understand it....

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 14:38 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in The Suit:

            What happens, is that libraries will give them books they have purchased, many of which are public domain, some which are not. They lend the digital books for 14 days, and then the book is no longer readable on your device or your download (unless borrowed again. If someone is waiting for the book, you can't serially borrow the book.

            Or, that's how I understand it....

            Yep. I've used OverDrive here and there, and that's how it works.

            Please love yourself.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 16:54 last edited by
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              So, why the suit?

              If I was a publisher, I'd be tickled for more readers of an author's back catalog...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                29 Jul 2020, 16:54

                So, why the suit?

                If I was a publisher, I'd be tickled for more readers of an author's back catalog...

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 16:57 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in The Suit:

                So, why the suit?

                If I was a publisher, I'd be tickled for more readers of an author's back catalog...

                Control freaks? Maybe some bean-counters see this as lost revenue.

                You'd think they'd be smarter about it.

                I was only joking

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 17:00 last edited by
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                  Rick Beato, who has a popular music channel on youtube, and who we've discussed here on occasion, did a rant video recently on Don Henley, who apparently employs 60 full time people to scour the internet for any unlicensed usage of Eagles or Henley songs. To zero constructive purpose for anybody on the planet, except maybe for those 60 people, who at least have jobs.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 18:05 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                    I could probably survive without ever hearing Hotel California again. Every crappy rock station in America must play it at least once a week.

                    I was only joking

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 18:15 last edited by
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                      Sorry Phibes, you can check out, but you can never leave.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Horace
                        wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 19:02 last edited by
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                        I think it's the only Eagles song not written by Henley and Frey. Must burn Henley to this day that it's also their most popular one.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          29 Jul 2020, 18:05

                          I could probably survive without ever hearing Hotel California again. Every crappy rock station in America must play it at least once a week.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 19:07 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Suit:

                          I could probably survive without ever hearing Hotel California again. Every crappy rock station in America must play it at least once a week every hour.

                          FIFY. Classic rock stations are mind numbingly repetitive but I'm too cheap to spring for Sirius. Some of those are pretty repetitive too.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            29 Jul 2020, 19:07

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Suit:

                            I could probably survive without ever hearing Hotel California again. Every crappy rock station in America must play it at least once a week every hour.

                            FIFY. Classic rock stations are mind numbingly repetitive but I'm too cheap to spring for Sirius. Some of those are pretty repetitive too.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 19:22 last edited by
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                            @Mik said in The Suit:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Suit:

                            I could probably survive without ever hearing Hotel California again. Every crappy rock station in America must play it at least once a week every hour.

                            FIFY. Classic rock stations are mind numbingly repetitive but I'm too cheap to spring for Sirius. Some of those are pretty repetitive too.

                            We had Sirius for about a year. Mrs. George listens ONLY to oldies and classic rock, and we found the selection limited and repetitive. Finally I made a playlist with the music she likes and put it all on an SD card that’s plugged into the car.

                            Sirius’s selection of classical stations (both of them) sucked too.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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