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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/29/donald-trump-arlington-cemetery-army-employee-00176729

    Army defends Arlington Cemetery staffer ‘pushed aside’ by Trump aides

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #31

      Blame Mike...

      https://dailycaller.com/2024/08/28/exclusive-gold-star-families-had-trouble-getting-trump-into-arlington-until-house-speaker-intervened/

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        Eugene Robinson at WaPo: Don’t yawn at Trump’s dishonorable use of Arlington National Cemetery

        Donald Trump has shown the nation, once again, that he has no shame.
        You knew that, of course. But hauling a camera crew to Arlington National Cemetery and exploiting the fresh graves of heroes — using them as props in his presidential campaign — was more than a violation of the cemetery’s rules; it was more, even, than a violation of federal law. It was a deeply dishonorable act by a shockingly dishonorable man.

        Just because we are accustomed to this kind of behavior from Trump does not mean we should accept it. Just because he has no sense of honor or appreciation of sacrifice does not mean we have to pretend honor and sacrifice no longer exist. Just because “Trump is an awful person” is an old story does not mean we should yawn at this latest demonstration and quickly move on.

        Obama ad:

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        OFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizing_for_America

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Eugene Robinson at WaPo: Don’t yawn at Trump’s dishonorable use of Arlington National Cemetery

          Donald Trump has shown the nation, once again, that he has no shame.
          You knew that, of course. But hauling a camera crew to Arlington National Cemetery and exploiting the fresh graves of heroes — using them as props in his presidential campaign — was more than a violation of the cemetery’s rules; it was more, even, than a violation of federal law. It was a deeply dishonorable act by a shockingly dishonorable man.

          Just because we are accustomed to this kind of behavior from Trump does not mean we should accept it. Just because he has no sense of honor or appreciation of sacrifice does not mean we have to pretend honor and sacrifice no longer exist. Just because “Trump is an awful person” is an old story does not mean we should yawn at this latest demonstration and quickly move on.

          Obama ad:

          image.jpeg
          image.jpeg

          OFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizing_for_America

          AxtremusA Offline
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          At least Obama didn't do it on the 11th anniversary that coincides with an election year.

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            #34

            @George-K A serving Commander in Chief honoring fallen vets is quite different from an aspirant for office exploiting them during a campaign.

            Maybe the gap would close a bit had Obama done that in September of 2012, but on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 it was the right thing to do. Indeed, imagine the reaction of the RWEC had he not done something like that.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @George-K A serving Commander in Chief honoring fallen vets is quite different from an aspirant for office exploiting them during a campaign.

              Maybe the gap would close a bit had Obama done that in September of 2012, but on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 it was the right thing to do. Indeed, imagine the reaction of the RWEC had he not done something like that.

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              @jon-nyc said in Three years ago today...:

              @George-K A serving Commander in Chief honoring fallen vets is quite different from an aspirant for office exploiting them during a campaign.

              Maybe the gap would close a bit had Obama done that in September of 2012, but on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 it was the right thing to do. Indeed, imagine the reaction of the RWEC had he not done something like that.

              Maybe this wouldn’t be a big deal if Biden or Harris ever actually spoke with any of the Gold Star parents or even read the names and acknowledged their sacrifice? Just a thought.

              The Brad

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                Donny Fonzerelli Trump visits fallen soldiers.

                IMG_9753.jpeg

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Donny Fonzerelli Trump visits fallen soldiers.

                  IMG_9753.jpeg

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                  @jon-nyc said in Three years ago today...:

                  Donny Fonzerelli Trump visits fallen soldiers.

                  IMG_9753.jpeg

                  And 95% of the families were grateful.

                  The Brad

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Thou sayest.

                    Tell me, were you voting for Trump? Under any circumstances?

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    @Jolly said in Three years ago today...:

                    Thou sayest.

                    Me Knowest! LOL

                    40% of the voting population will vote for President Trump, regardless of what he has said or done in the past, and regardless of what he says or does in the future to the election time.

                    40% of the voting population will vote for VP Harris, regardless of what she has said or done in the past, and regardless of what she says or does in the future to the election time.

                    20% will decide the election.

                    That is who both candidates should be focusing on - those 20%.

                    And trust me that the above, is not something that will sway the 20%.

                    (Having said that, I am 95% sure that President Trump had no decision or part in the whole fiasco. It is basically the fault of his campaign staff, but as has been said, it is perception...........)

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      At least Obama didn't do it on the 11th anniversary that coincides with an election year.

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                      @Axtremus said in Three years ago today...:

                      At least Obama didn't do it on the 11th anniversary that coincides with an election year.

                      Was Obama invited?

                      Gold star families invited Trump, because they thought the Biden-Harris Administration caused their loved ones deaths through negligence and then gave them a fucking over afterwards.

                      With Trump there, it guarantees that people do not forget.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @jon-nyc said in Three years ago today...:

                        Donny Fonzerelli Trump visits fallen soldiers.

                        IMG_9753.jpeg

                        And 95% of the families were grateful.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Three years ago today...:

                        @jon-nyc said in Three years ago today...:

                        Donny Fonzerelli Trump visits fallen soldiers.

                        IMG_9753.jpeg

                        And 95% of the families were grateful.

                        Where’s that “point” floating over the guy’s head gif?

                        No doubt we could find a number of families of fallen soldiers that would invite Free Palestine protestors to their son’s graves for the photo op. Wouldn’t make it appropriate.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          I haven't heard the families complaining. Maybe I missed something...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            #42

                            You did miss something - the post above yours.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              jon-nyc
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                              IMG_9777.jpeg

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
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                                #44

                                Anybody know what time it is?

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                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  My son was murdered by the Biden-Harris Administration...

                                  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/08/31/gold-star-mom-had-the-perfect-response-to-the-liberal-media-over-trumps-arlington-cemetery-visit-n2644130?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=slider

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Its sad that 13 families in 2021 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter during military action.

                                    it is also sad that 19 families in 2019 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter action..

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      Its sad that 13 families in 2021 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter during military action.

                                      it is also sad that 19 families in 2019 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter action..

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in Three years ago today...:

                                      Its sad that 13 families in 2021 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter during military action.

                                      it is also sad that 19 families in 2019 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter action..

                                      That's correct, but very misleading. You like graphs...Graph out the months when those deaths occurred.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner

                                        Says 2019 had 21 deaths due to hostile action.

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Three years ago today...:

                                          Its sad that 13 families in 2021 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter during military action.

                                          it is also sad that 19 families in 2019 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter action..

                                          That's correct, but very misleading. You like graphs...Graph out the months when those deaths occurred.

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                                          @Jolly said in Three years ago today...:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Three years ago today...:

                                          Its sad that 13 families in 2021 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter during military action.

                                          it is also sad that 19 families in 2019 had to bear the death of a military son or daughter action..

                                          That's correct, but very misleading. You like graphs...Graph out the months when those deaths occurred.

                                          You're right - joking is not the right word, but my response was probably misleading, but there is still a semi valid point.

                                          I have not study each of the combat deaths in 2019, but I am guessing that more than one of them was somehow the result of bad planning, poor support, lack of XXX, etc. As Commander in Chief, does the ultimate responsibilty fall to the president for their (possibly preventable) death?

                                          Murder is probably not the correct word either from the mom.

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