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Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?

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  • CopperC Online
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #54

    That's about right.

    The battles were nice. But even those felt a little rushed.

    The wardrobe was nice, I can't say if it was accurate.

    A mini-series that develops a few more characters would help.

    Blame Mr. Bonaparte the scope of his life was too much for a 2 hr 37 min movie.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #55

      But we still have mini-series...Most of the stuff on streaming is actually mini-series, if you consider a mini-series as a single character or ensemble of characters in a single story arc of eight hours or so.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
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        #56

        Still have yet to watch it but came across this critique which I thought was well presented:

        https://screenrant.com/napoleon-master-and-commander-best-story-movie/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0QMjVZ9eIZeNaU6rK2q_nWLT59CzN7H_hBnkBwBgZgDKkThcG4dpcrr_c_aem_Af4K8KpFQ8OPelO2Y6U9Mr3a-N5WNofCQhfMyjU5Ga2l0aGmb47NfkL4KOt7zg3n54yngf8lybHSzDUs7tfIROHP

        Elbows up!

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        • George KG Offline
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          #57

          Thanks for that, @Renauda .

          We've commented on how Napoleon's life would be much-better suited to a limited mini-series. Imagine how Scott could have told the story over 10 episodes rather than 2 ½ hours!

          Overall, I think this critique is spot on: Too ambitious, too compressed, too vague. Spectacular to watch but...where's the beef?

          The History Buff's youtube channel sings the praises of Master and Commander. It was intended to be a series of films, but the project died because of poor revenues.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by
            #58

            Master and Commander is one my all time favourite films. Probably in second place behind Lawrence of Arabia

            Elbows up!

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #59

              Take an afternoon and watch Scott's Napoleon. I'd love to read your thoughts.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                Only if it’s the extended director’s cut version which I don’t think has been yet released

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #61

                  Just watched it. Marvelously filmed, but the criticisms I have read here hold. The clear implication was he was nothing without Josephine. SO much fascinating history that could have unfolded and yet was blithely glossed over for a few highlights that were poorly presented.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    The "Director's Cut" is available on Apple TV+.

                    More battle scenes.
                    More Josephine.
                    More on Napoleons death.

                    45 minutes (or so) longer.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #63

                      Meh.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG George K

                        The "Director's Cut" is available on Apple TV+.

                        More battle scenes.
                        More Josephine.
                        More on Napoleons death.

                        45 minutes (or so) longer.

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                        @George-K said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

                        More on Napoleons death.

                        BRO, spoiler alert!?!

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