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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #11

    From two years ago, a suicide.

    Eyewitness News has exclusively learned the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office has finished reviewing the mysterious death of Ellen Greenberg, a Philadelphia school teacher who was found stabbed nearly 20 times in 2011. The office reaffirmed that her death was a suicide.

    The AG's Office previously reviewed the case in 2019 and had determined the death was a suicide.

    The file of Ellen Greenberg is being closed by the office of Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, according to a letter sent to the attorney of Greenberg's parents. The letter shows the AG's Office still supports suicide as the manner of death after it reviewed the case again, between December 2021 and January of this year.

    The Greenberg's attorney uncovered what Podraza called new evidence in the case last year. In December, he provided it to the state attorney general's office to review.

    Part of that new evidence is the deposition of a medical expert who reexamined a part of Greenberg's spinal tissue, which found some interesting results.

    "What's significant here is that there's no hemorrhage," Lyndsey Emery, a neuropathologist, said in her deposition.

    "You don't stab yourself when you're dead," Podraza said. "That's just a basic medical proposition that no one disputes."

    But the attorney general's letter suggests the medical examiner misspoke when she gave that answer, adding, "After reviewing the material, the facts still support the medical examiner's finding of suicide."

    She should have fallen out of a window.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      I didn’t know Shapiro knew Hillary.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #13

        Nobody has walked on the moon during Josh Shapiro's lifetime.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              Ben Shapiro is a bold choice. Crossing aisles. I commend her.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #17

                I checked older versions of his wiki page from 2021, 2022, 2023, and February 2024.

                None mention IDF.

                Assuming it really did appear in a recent page, it was probably vandalism from antisemites or anti-Shapiro folks playing to them that was then corrected.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  Not recent - 1993.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/shapiro-seeks-to-downplay-his-time-as-idf-volunteer-after-college-op-ed-resurfaces/ar-AA1o9NZS

                  ennsylvania Governor and potential Democratic vice presidential nominee Josh Shapiro on Friday sought to distance himself from a recently uncovered op-ed he wrote in college, in which he identified as a former volunteer in the IDF and argued that the Palestinians are too “battle-minded” to pursue peace with Israel.

                  “While he was in high school, Josh Shapiro was required to do a service project, which he and several classmates completed through a program that took them to a kibbutz in Israel where he worked on a farm and at a fishery,” Shapiro’s spokesperson Manuel Bonder told The Times of Israel.

                  “The program also included volunteering on service projects on an Israeli army base. At no time was he engaged in any military activities,” Bonder added in a statement responding to an inquiry regarding the nature of his volunteer work.

                  In the 1993 newspaper op-ed, which dismissed the recently signed Oslo Accords, Shapiro wrote, “Despite my skepticism as a Jew and a past volunteer in the Israeli army, I strongly hope and pray that this ‘peace plan’ will be successful.”

                  While Shapiro’s Jewish roots are well established — including his enrollment at the Akiba Hebrew Academy in Philadelphia — the op-ed from his time at the University of Rochester appeared to be the first revelation of such direct ties to the IDF.

                  “Palestinians will not coexist peacefully,” Shapiro also wrote in the op-ed titled “Peace Not Possible.”

                  “They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own,” added the then-20-year-old student.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    Ok, so someone uncovered that in the last few days and put it in his page.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I checked older versions of his wiki page from 2021, 2022, 2023, and February 2024.

                      None mention IDF.

                      Assuming it really did appear in a recent page, it was probably vandalism from antisemites or anti-Shapiro folks playing to them that was then corrected.

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      @jon-nyc said in Shapiro?:

                      I checked older versions of his wiki page from 2021, 2022, 2023, and February 2024.

                      None mention IDF.

                      Assuming it really did appear in a recent page, it was probably vandalism from antisemites or anti-Shapiro folks playing to them that was then corrected.

                      If they were smart, they would have waited 2 weeks.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Ok, so someone uncovered that in the last few days and put it in his page.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #21

                        @jon-nyc said in Shapiro?:

                        Ok, so someone uncovered that in the last few days and put it in his page.

                        Yup, and it's old, as I said.

                        Kinda funny people trying to bring it up, or, perhaps more importantly cover it up.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          What the guy wrote was inaccurate or at least misleading anyway.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            What the guy wrote was inaccurate or at least misleading anyway.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            @jon-nyc said in Shapiro?:

                            What the guy wrote was inaccurate or at least misleading anyway.

                            What which guy wrote?

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              Fetterman has concerns.

                              https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/03/fetterman-shapiro-harris-vp-00172557

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                Saw that. Sounds more like a clash of ambitions.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  Two different types of democrats with appeals to different types within the state.

                                  I get that he’s newer, and I personally don’t trust the guy, but Fetterman would not be the worst choice for Kamala.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #27

                                    Chris Christie pointed out Trump’s role in getting Shapiro elected governor - by endorsing Mastriano, the weakest republican in the field.

                                    How funny if that ends up costing him the general.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
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                                      #28

                                      Picking Fetterman assures that they would not be able to focus on issues rather than constantly being on the defense about whether he was ready to be a heartbeat away.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Picking Fetterman assures that they would not be able to focus on issues rather than constantly being on the defense about whether he was ready to be a heartbeat away.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #29

                                        @Mik said in Shapiro?:

                                        Picking Fetterman assures that they would not be able to focus on issues rather than constantly being on the defense about whether he was ready to be a heartbeat away.

                                        Like Vance? Both became Senators in 22. Fetterman was PA Lt. Governor before that… Vance was an author… That’s not a discussion that plays to the Republicans…

                                        The Brad

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
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                                          #30

                                          It's about his health, not his experience. Plus, can you imagine Fetterman showing up at the G9 in a hoodie and shorts?

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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