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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
    wrote on last edited by
    #79

    Not specific to this case as I didn't watch any of the questioning, but I rarely feel terribly good about these kinds of hearings as it is all dinner theater - feigned outrage, goofy questions, etc. While having open hearings provides transparency, it rarely does anything to maintain or restore one's faith in government, the intelligence and/or sanity of the people who govern us or hope for the future.

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      89th8 Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #80

      @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

      I'm not sure a whistleblower was needed for that. I presumed the building was outside the security perimeter because the Secret Service relied on local law enforcement to keep it secure and the local cops likely didn't take the building too seriously because it was hot out and, let's be honest, the idea of someone climbing on the roof and shooting when surrounded by so many cops, was likely the furthest thing from their minds.

      A failure, for sure... but I can easily see how it happened.

      Further, the security perimeter around these events is almost ALWAYS smaller than you think, with the ability for people to shoot guns from far away at the target. But the distance (difficulty) mixed with the ability to maneuver around secondary law enforcement, usually deters would-be assassins.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by Jolly
        #81

        Then they better rethink. I hunted with several guys that shot bowling pins at 300 yards.

        Check out the M4 qualification card:

        alt text

        You can be a half-notch above piss-poor and still hit center mass reliably from a prone position at 150 meters (about 165 yards). I am a mediocre shot and I've never missed a prone shot at less than 300 yards on a standing (not running) deer or bigger animal. Two guys I hunted with never missed a shot (that I know of) at a running deer at less than 100 yards.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #82

          A tongue lashing...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #83

            "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

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            • 89th8 89th

              "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #84

              @89th you didn’t capitalize “silence “.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • 89th8 89th

                "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #85

                @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                Dunno. Luna told her she wants her charged with perjury.

                And she might have the votes to do it.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #86

                  That’s not how indictments work.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #87

                    Didn’t we have an over/under on this resignation?

                    I seem to remember saying August 1st. I was off by a week and a day.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • 89th8 89th

                      "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #88

                      @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                      "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                      The best part was the closeup of the puddle forming under her chair, while the sweat dripped from her forehead and onto the table. Her white knuckle death grip on the arms of her chair, her fingernails gouging parts of the finish as she was reduced to quivering tears. Riveting video. The screams at the end, begging God to please make it stop, made me realize that public servanthood is not for everybody. When she finally challenged AOC to a mud wrestling match at the end to settle their difference "like real women", I understood why she was selected as the director of the Secret Service.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        That’s not how indictments work.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #89

                        @jon-nyc said in Secret Service under fire:

                        That’s not how indictments work.

                        I know. But it can be referred to Garland. And right now I suspect he is in CYA mode.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                          "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                          The best part was the closeup of the puddle forming under her chair, while the sweat dripped from her forehead and onto the table. Her white knuckle death grip on the arms of her chair, her fingernails gouging parts of the finish as she was reduced to quivering tears. Riveting video. The screams at the end, begging God to please make it stop, made me realize that public servanthood is not for everybody. When she finally challenged AOC to a mud wrestling match at the end to settle their difference "like real women", I understood why she was selected as the director of the Secret Service.

                          89th8 Offline
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                          #90

                          @Horace said in Secret Service under fire:

                          @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                          "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                          The best part was the closeup of the puddle forming under her chair, while the sweat dripped from her forehead and onto the table. Her white knuckle death grip on the arms of her chair, her fingernails gouging parts of the finish as she was reduced to quivering tears. Riveting video. The screams at the end, begging God to please make it stop, made me realize that public servanthood is not for everybody. When she finally challenged AOC to a mud wrestling match at the end to settle their difference "like real women", I understood why she was selected as the director of the Secret Service.

                          That puddle was tears? Figured it was...

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @Horace said in Secret Service under fire:

                            @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                            "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                            The best part was the closeup of the puddle forming under her chair, while the sweat dripped from her forehead and onto the table. Her white knuckle death grip on the arms of her chair, her fingernails gouging parts of the finish as she was reduced to quivering tears. Riveting video. The screams at the end, begging God to please make it stop, made me realize that public servanthood is not for everybody. When she finally challenged AOC to a mud wrestling match at the end to settle their difference "like real women", I understood why she was selected as the director of the Secret Service.

                            That puddle was tears? Figured it was...

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #91

                            @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                            @Horace said in Secret Service under fire:

                            @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                            "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                            The best part was the closeup of the puddle forming under her chair, while the sweat dripped from her forehead and onto the table. Her white knuckle death grip on the arms of her chair, her fingernails gouging parts of the finish as she was reduced to quivering tears. Riveting video. The screams at the end, begging God to please make it stop, made me realize that public servanthood is not for everybody. When she finally challenged AOC to a mud wrestling match at the end to settle their difference "like real women", I understood why she was selected as the director of the Secret Service.

                            That puddle was tears? Figured it was...

                            Vomit or diarrhea, but I'm not a biologist.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #92

                              Jerold Nadler (D-Antifa denier) blames Trump for the assassination attempt.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #93

                                Where do the Dems find these people? Schiff, Nadler, AOC, Omar, etc. I know the GOP has its own nutters, but there seems to be a surplus on the Blue side of the aisle...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #94

                                  Secret Service: "We can't do our job"

                                  Alternate title: "Stay indoors."

                                  Secret Service officials encouraged Donald Trump’s campaign to stop scheduling large outdoor rallies and other outdoor events with big crowds after the assassination attempt on the former president in Butler, Pa., according to people familiar with the matter.

                                  In the aftermath of the shooting, agents from the Secret Service communicated their concerns about large outdoor rallies going forward to Trump campaign advisers, three people familiar with the matter said.

                                  The people familiar with the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private discussions.

                                  For upcoming events, Trump’s team is scouting indoor venues, such as basketball arenas and other large spaces where thousands of people can fit, people familiar with the request said. The campaign is not currently planning any large outdoor events, a person close to Trump said.

                                  A Trump campaign spokeswoman declined to comment. A spokesman for the Secret Service said the agency does not comment on its protective methods.

                                  Trump has held hundreds of outdoor rallies since launching his first presidential bid, often bragging about — and sometimes falsely inflating — his large crowds. They have become something of a cult favorite among his most passionate fans, with tailgate parties in parking lots, vendors lining open areas near the rally and large parades of traffic, often with gargantuan pickup trucks.

                                  They usually include large rosters of speakers before Trump takes the stage, with crowds sometimes enduring the heat or the cold for many hours. The crowd sometimes departs before Trump, who is regularly late, finishes speaking.

                                  The rallies are often held at airports but are also held at fairgrounds, football stadiums or other large outdoor venues.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #95

                                    I think that if someone really wanted to harm a candidate, they could do so. The fortunate thing is that those who do want to harm a candidate are usually not 100% there mentally.

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      I think that if someone really wanted to harm a candidate, they could do so. The fortunate thing is that those who do want to harm a candidate are usually not 100% there mentally.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #96

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Secret Service under fire:

                                      The fortunate thing is that those who do want to harm a candidate are usually not 100% there mentally.

                                      Or talented. One of the criticisms of Oswald is that no untrained sniper could have pulled off that assassination.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #97

                                        How is that a criticism? More like mad props.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          How is that a criticism? More like mad props.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #98

                                          @jon-nyc said in Secret Service under fire:

                                          How is that a criticism? More like mad props.

                                          Let me rephrase...

                                          One of the criticisms of the investigation was that....

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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