Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Trump Speech

Trump Speech

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
46 Posts 11 Posters 313 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • CopperC Offline
    CopperC Offline
    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    I didn't watch any of it, but I doubt he really made any false claims.

    1 Reply Last reply
    • MikM Mik

      The thing is he's not a good speaker, although I'm sure he thinks he is. It was a droning, unoriginal, lazy waste of time. He said nothing surprising or revelatory or even seriously emotional about the shooting and offered up nothing we haven't heard before about platform.

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
      Doctor PhibesD Offline
      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #32

      @Mik said in Trump Speech:

      The thing is he's not a good speaker, although I'm sure he thinks he is.

      Nobody knows more about speaking than he does.

      I was only joking

      1 Reply Last reply
      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        A guy like Trump is going to have one style when he’s talking to a bunch of fans and should have another when he’s trying to reach a broader audience. While this should have been the latter, I suspect he was driven by habit and by the people in the room to shift into the former. From the reporting I saw it sounded like he started off with a speech and went into Trump Rally mode after a half hour or so.

        JollyJ Offline
        JollyJ Offline
        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #33

        @jon-nyc said in Trump Speech:

        A guy like Trump is going to have one style when he’s talking to a bunch of fans and should have another when he’s trying to reach a broader audience. While this should have been the latter, I suspect he was driven by habit and by the people in the room to shift into the former. From the reporting I saw it sounded like he started off with a speech and went into Trump Rally mode after a half hour or so.

        He's in his 70's and does a lot of rallies. Habits are very hard to break at that age.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

        1 Reply Last reply
        • jon-nycJ Offline
          jon-nycJ Offline
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #34

          Yeah, but also the crowd in front of him was rally-like. I’ll bet if he was talking just to a camera he would have stayed more on script.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

          JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
          • George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #35

            Screenshot-2024-07-18-at-9.jpeg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • George KG Offline
              George KG Offline
              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #36

              A blogger comments on the length of the speech.

              I noticed in his speech, he gets annoyed having to read other people's written lines, so after every line he reads from the teleprompter, he then offers asides and digressions to add his personal flava to it.

              Like he read: "From Yorktown, to Antietam, to Midway, brave Americans have joined the roll call of immortal heroes."

              And that's obviously not Trump's way of speaking.

              Then he turns to the audience and freestyles it: "These heroes, these heroes. So many heroes, so many. We need to cherish them. We need to cherish these heroes. Did you ever notice that? No one says 'cherish these heroes' any longer, no one says that. We need to build statues. Beautiful statues. I love the flag."

              Then he goes back to the script for a line.

              That's why it was so long -- the script itself was about 45 minutes long, and then his asides were just as long.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

              1 Reply Last reply
              • MikM Offline
                MikM Offline
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #37

                In both the debate and the convention, all he had to do to secure a win was to exercise a little discipline and act presidential. He couldn't do it.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Yeah, but also the crowd in front of him was rally-like. I’ll bet if he was talking just to a camera he would have stayed more on script.

                  JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #38

                  @jon-nyc said in Trump Speech:

                  Yeah, but also the crowd in front of him was rally-like. I’ll bet if he was talking just to a camera he would have stayed more on script.

                  Point taken.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • MikM Mik

                    In both the debate and the convention, all he had to do to secure a win was to exercise a little discipline and act presidential. He couldn't do it.

                    JollyJ Offline
                    JollyJ Offline
                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #39

                    @Mik said in Trump Speech:

                    In both the debate and the convention, all he had to do to secure a win was to exercise a little discipline and act presidential. He couldn't do it.

                    Oh, I think he won the debate, hands down. The debate is what broke the media silence on Biden and what will lead to his ouster. Either voluntarily or through the 25th Amendment.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • MikM Offline
                      MikM Offline
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #40

                      I don't think he won the debate but squandered a golden opportunity. No one won that mess.

                      The fallout for the Biden campaign just shows his party's values, or lack thereof.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • MikM Mik

                        The thing is he's not a good speaker, although I'm sure he thinks he is. It was a droning, unoriginal, lazy waste of time. He said nothing surprising or revelatory or even seriously emotional about the shooting and offered up nothing we haven't heard before about platform.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #41

                        @Mik said in Trump Speech:

                        The thing is he's not a good speaker, although I'm sure he thinks he is. It was a droning, unoriginal, lazy waste of time. He said nothing surprising or revelatory or even seriously emotional about the shooting and offered up nothing we haven't heard before about platform.

                        +1, and even when he’s trying to commend others, it comes across as self aggrandizing.

                        The Brad

                        Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Mik said in Trump Speech:

                          The thing is he's not a good speaker, although I'm sure he thinks he is. It was a droning, unoriginal, lazy waste of time. He said nothing surprising or revelatory or even seriously emotional about the shooting and offered up nothing we haven't heard before about platform.

                          +1, and even when he’s trying to commend others, it comes across as self aggrandizing.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #42

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Speech:

                          +1, and even when he’s trying to commend others, it comes across as self aggrandizing.

                          If I'm honest, I think this is the root of why I can't stand him. He just never fucking shuts up about how awesome he is. Clearly he's got some kind of problem. Now far be it from me, as an on-line doctor, to make a formal diagnosis, but I think he's probably a complete dickhead, if you'll forgive the technical terminology.

                          I was only joking

                          LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Speech:

                            +1, and even when he’s trying to commend others, it comes across as self aggrandizing.

                            If I'm honest, I think this is the root of why I can't stand him. He just never fucking shuts up about how awesome he is. Clearly he's got some kind of problem. Now far be it from me, as an on-line doctor, to make a formal diagnosis, but I think he's probably a complete dickhead, if you'll forgive the technical terminology.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #43

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Speech:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Speech:

                            +1, and even when he’s trying to commend others, it comes across as self aggrandizing.

                            If I'm honest, I think this is the root of why I can't stand him. He just never fucking shuts up about how awesome he is. Clearly he's got some kind of problem. Now far be it from me, as an on-line doctor, to make a formal diagnosis, but I think he's probably a complete dickhead, if you'll forgive the technical terminology.

                            I agree, but here’s the weird thing. He is genuinely well liked by a bunch of people that don’t really need to put up with dickheads. I don’t get that..

                            The Brad

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            • JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #44

                              Easy.

                              He's not a dickhead. Not totally.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              • HoraceH Offline
                                HoraceH Offline
                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #45

                                I find it trivially easy to not hate Trump. But if he triggers your disgust reaction, your hatred of the guy is just inevitable. Humans don’t rationalize around disgust, they just go with it.

                                Education is extremely important.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #46

                                  Sadly, we can’t all be as rational and rooted in logic as Trump’s supporters clearly are.

                                  I was only joking

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  Reply
                                  • Reply as topic
                                  Log in to reply
                                  • Oldest to Newest
                                  • Newest to Oldest
                                  • Most Votes


                                  • Login

                                  • Don't have an account? Register

                                  • Login or register to search.
                                  • First post
                                    Last post
                                  0
                                  • Categories
                                  • Recent
                                  • Tags
                                  • Popular
                                  • Users
                                  • Groups