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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    Anybody who listened to the director of the agency and her excuses, who still thinks the Secret Service is a serious agency worthy of the mystique they’ve been dining out on forever, is a more hopeful person than I.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by George K
      #19

      All this BS makes me want to re-read "Rawhide Down."

      I've commented on my encounter with Tim McCarthy - the guy who took a bullet for Reagan.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        And, you gotta admit, this is odd.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #21

          It does not seem likely that that kid would become involved in a serious conspiracy to do serious things in this world. It is more likely that, in fact, he learned how to build that bomb by himself on the internet, and that he “snuck past” our crack secret service to take his shots at Trump.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • kluursK Online
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            kluurs
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            #22

            He was a science major - and probably didn't have the 10 commandments in his school. Things to be corrected.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              The story doesn't specify that Crooks was the threat, but that there was A threat.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #24

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  #25

                  And the SS story changes again.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-shooting-secret-service-changes-story-on-local-swat-team-position/ar-BB1q9Mun?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=319ba2f1a82d4aea9bd7ee5428a71667&ei=14

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #26

                    According to an attorney who specializes in self-defense, there's no excuse for the delay in taking out the alleged assassin.

                    "The law allows for them to use deadly force in the defense of the President or any other innocent person the moment they reasonably perceive an imminent deadly force threat to that innocent person. That means they don't have to wait for a shot to be fired by the bad guy first, they don't have to be certain he's a bad guy. It could be wrong, it just has to be reasonably perceived as a deadly threat."

                    Link to video

                    Go to 3:40.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      You know, I kinda suspect that the secret service saw this geeky little kid, acting as incompetent as hell, trying to get through security with a range finder, crawling on the ground, and all the other shit, and thought it was a joke or thought the kid couldn’t pose a real threat.

                      The Brad

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                      • George KG George K

                        According to an attorney who specializes in self-defense, there's no excuse for the delay in taking out the alleged assassin.

                        "The law allows for them to use deadly force in the defense of the President or any other innocent person the moment they reasonably perceive an imminent deadly force threat to that innocent person. That means they don't have to wait for a shot to be fired by the bad guy first, they don't have to be certain he's a bad guy. It could be wrong, it just has to be reasonably perceived as a deadly threat."

                        Link to video

                        Go to 3:40.

                        MikM Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                        According to an attorney who specializes in self-defense, there's no excuse for the delay in taking out the alleged assassin.

                        "The law allows for them to use deadly force in the defense of the President or any other innocent person the moment they reasonably perceive an imminent deadly force threat to that innocent person. That means they don't have to wait for a shot to be fired by the bad guy first, they don't have to be certain he's a bad guy. It could be wrong, it just has to be reasonably perceived as a deadly threat."

                        Link to video

                        Go to 3:40.

                        I don’t know about you, but I’d see a guy with a rifle trying to get to a place to fire as an imminent threat.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            It might have been a miracle that DJT turned his head when and how he did, but there was a veritable witches brew of errors and mistakes for the attempt to have gotten as far as it did.

                            The Brad

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              Yet, Trump stood up for the Secret Service agents last night.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Yet, Trump stood up for the Secret Service agents last night.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                                Yet, Trump stood up for the Secret Service agents last night.

                                The smart move.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                                  Yet, Trump stood up for the Secret Service agents last night.

                                  The smart move.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @Horace said in Secret Service under fire:

                                  The smart move.

                                  Damn right. As Senator Schumer reminded us, the Secret Service, CIA, and NSA have "six ways to Sunday" to get rid of you.

                                  Are you listening Justice Gorsuch? Justice Kavanaugh?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #35

                                      Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                                        Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

                                        I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

                                        Field agents, not so much.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                                          Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

                                          I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

                                          Field agents, not so much.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                                          @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

                                          Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

                                          I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

                                          Field agents, not so much.

                                          No, these are going to be guys with guns. But there are guys with guns and then there is the Secret Service.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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