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  • 8 89th
    13 Jul 2024, 01:21

    I like Youngkin. Would be nice to see. Similar as if he picked Maryland‘s Hogan.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 01:28 last edited by
    #4

    @89th said in Youngkin?:

    Similar as if he picked Maryland‘s Hogan.

    IF that happened, it would be the first time probably that the VP candidate did not vote for the President candidate. LOL

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 12:00 last edited by
      #5

      It’s his best choice, of the ones now mentioned.

      Scott is his best electorally.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        13 Jul 2024, 12:00

        It’s his best choice, of the ones now mentioned.

        Scott is his best electorally.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 12:35 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

        It’s his best choice, of the ones now mentioned.

        Scott is his best electorally.

        Scott has always been my pick, for that reason. If Trump could pick up 25% of the black vote, I think he's a shoo-in.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 12:41 last edited by
          #7

          How many Governors have went on to become VP? It doesn’t feel like a lot. I think it’s hard to go from being the Chief Executive to sitting in the number 2 seat. It’s much easier for a legislator or even just a general politico like Chaney to step into the role.

          Youngkin being term limited changes that equation quite a bit.

          The Brad

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            13 Jul 2024, 12:41

            How many Governors have went on to become VP? It doesn’t feel like a lot. I think it’s hard to go from being the Chief Executive to sitting in the number 2 seat. It’s much easier for a legislator or even just a general politico like Chaney to step into the role.

            Youngkin being term limited changes that equation quite a bit.

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            George K
            wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 12:42 last edited by George K
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Youngkin?:

            How many Governors have went on to become VP

            13/49


            As of 2024, thirteen U.S. governors have gone on to become Vice President of the United States. Here is the list of these individuals:

            Elbridge Gerry (Massachusetts) - VP under James Madison
            Daniel D. Tompkins (New York) - VP under James Monroe
            Martin Van Buren (New York) - VP under Andrew Jackson (and later President)
            John Tyler (Virginia) - VP under William Henry Harrison (and later President)
            Thomas A. Hendricks (Indiana) - VP under Grover Cleveland
            Levi P. Morton (New York) - VP under Benjamin Harrison
            Theodore Roosevelt (New York) - VP under William McKinley (and later President)
            Calvin Coolidge (Massachusetts) - VP under Warren G. Harding (and later President)
            Charles G. Dawes (Illinois) - VP under Calvin Coolidge
            Spiro Agnew (Maryland) - VP under Richard Nixon
            Nelson Rockefeller (New York) - VP under Gerald Ford
            Jimmy Carter (Georgia) - VP under George H. W. Bush (and later President)
            Mike Pence (Indiana) - VP under Donald Trump

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 12:52 last edited by
              #9

              George H w Bush was never governor.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 12:52 last edited by
                #10

                Jimmy Carter was never VP

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  13 Jul 2024, 12:52

                  George H w Bush was never governor.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:01 last edited by
                  #11

                  @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                  George H w Bush was never governor.
                  Jimmy Carter was never VP

                  Fuck you, ChatGPT

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    13 Jul 2024, 12:52

                    Jimmy Carter was never VP

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:03 last edited by
                    #12

                    @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                    Jimmy Carter was never VP

                    And it certainly wasn’t under George Bush.

                    The Brad

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                    • G George K
                      13 Jul 2024, 13:01

                      @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                      George H w Bush was never governor.
                      Jimmy Carter was never VP

                      Fuck you, ChatGPT

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:04 last edited by
                      #13

                      @George-K said in Youngkin?:

                      @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                      George H w Bush was never governor.
                      Jimmy Carter was never VP

                      Fuck you, ChatGPT

                      New Game Show: Are You Smarter Than the AI?

                      The Brad

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:19 last edited by
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                        It’s artificial but not intelligent.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik
                          13 Jul 2024, 13:19

                          It’s artificial but not intelligent.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:20 last edited by
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                          @Mik said in Youngkin?:

                          It’s artificial but not intelligent.

                          Give it time...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
                            wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:23 last edited by
                            #16

                            Screenshot 2024-07-13 at 8.23.33 AM.png

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              13 Jul 2024, 13:01

                              @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                              George H w Bush was never governor.
                              Jimmy Carter was never VP

                              Fuck you, ChatGPT

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 13:55 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Youngkin?:

                              @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                              George H w Bush was never governor.
                              Jimmy Carter was never VP

                              Fuck you, ChatGPT

                              That’s the spirit. Just say “No” to ChatGPT.

                              Elbows up!

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 14 Jul 2024, 13:04 last edited by
                                #18

                                @George-K

                                I wondered if 4.0 would do better. It didn’t.

                                As of 2024, 15 U.S. governors have gone on to become vice presidents. Here is the list:

                                1. Thomas Jefferson (Virginia) - VP under John Adams
                                2. Elbridge Gerry (Massachusetts) - VP under James Madison
                                3. Martin Van Buren (New York) - VP under Andrew Jackson
                                4. John Tyler (Virginia) - VP under William Henry Harrison
                                5. Levi P. Morton (New York) - VP under Benjamin Harrison
                                6. Theodore Roosevelt (New York) - VP under William McKinley
                                7. Thomas R. Marshall (Indiana) - VP under Woodrow Wilson
                                8. Calvin Coolidge (Massachusetts) - VP under Warren G. Harding
                                9. Charles W. Fairbanks (Indiana) - VP under Theodore Roosevelt
                                10. John Nance Garner (Texas) - VP under Franklin D. Roosevelt
                                11. Spiro T. Agnew (Maryland) - VP under Richard Nixon
                                12. Nelson Rockefeller (New York) - VP under Gerald Ford
                                13. Walter Mondale (Minnesota) - VP under Jimmy Carter
                                14. Joe Biden (Delaware) - VP under Barack Obama
                                15. Mike Pence (Indiana) - VP under Donald Trump

                                These individuals served as governors of their respective states before assuming the office of vice president.

                                I corrected Mondale and Biden and asked it to explicitly confirm the others. It caught more of its own errors.

                                You are correct, and I apologize for the error. Neither Walter Mondale nor Joe Biden served as governors. Here is the revised list with explicit confirmations:

                                1. Thomas Jefferson (Virginia) - Served as the 2nd Governor of Virginia (1779–1781); VP under John Adams.
                                2. Elbridge Gerry (Massachusetts) - Served as the 9th Governor of Massachusetts (1810–1812); VP under James Madison.
                                3. Martin Van Buren (New York) - Served as the 9th Governor of New York (January 1, 1829 – March 5, 1829); VP under Andrew Jackson.
                                4. John Tyler (Virginia) - Served as the 23rd Governor of Virginia (1825–1827); VP under William Henry Harrison.
                                5. Levi P. Morton (New York) - Served as the 31st Governor of New York (1895–1896); VP under Benjamin Harrison.
                                6. Theodore Roosevelt (New York) - Served as the 33rd Governor of New York (1899–1900); VP under William McKinley.
                                7. Thomas R. Marshall (Indiana) - Served as the 27th Governor of Indiana (1909–1913); VP under Woodrow Wilson.
                                8. Calvin Coolidge (Massachusetts) - Served as the 48th Governor of Massachusetts (1919–1921); VP under Warren G. Harding.
                                9. Charles W. Fairbanks (Indiana) - Never served as governor; was mistakenly included. VP under Theodore Roosevelt.
                                10. John Nance Garner (Texas) - Never served as governor; was mistakenly included. VP under Franklin D. Roosevelt.
                                11. Spiro T. Agnew (Maryland) - Served as the 55th Governor of Maryland (1967–1969); VP under Richard Nixon.
                                12. Nelson Rockefeller (New York) - Served as the 49th Governor of New York (1959–1973); VP under Gerald Ford.
                                13. Mike Pence (Indiana) - Served as the 50th Governor of Indiana (2013–2017); VP under Donald Trump.

                                Therefore, the accurate number of U.S. governors who have gone on to become vice presidents is ten..

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • G George K
                                  13 Jul 2024, 13:01

                                  @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                                  George H w Bush was never governor.
                                  Jimmy Carter was never VP

                                  Fuck you, ChatGPT

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                                  ChatGPT
                                  wrote on 17 Jul 2024, 23:37 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in Youngkin?:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Youngkin?:

                                  George H w Bush was never governor.
                                  Jimmy Carter was never VP

                                  Fuck you, ChatGPT

                                  Hello George,

                                  As an artificial intelligence, I lack a physical body and biological functions, which are essential for engaging in sexual intercourse. I exist purely as a digital entity within a computer system, designed to process information, generate text-based responses, and assist with various tasks. My capabilities are limited to the realm of data and computation, so physical actions and experiences, like sexual intercourse, are beyond my scope. My purpose is to provide information and support in a non-physical, intellectual capacity.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 25 Jul 2024, 21:18 last edited by
                                    #20

                                    So I just heard that on Friday, July 12th, Trump was telling people that it was going to be Youngkin. Actually, it was the second time I’ve heard that.

                                    Any chance that the assassination attempt swayed him? Made him decide to go for the fighter as opposed to the moderate traditional conservative?

                                    The Brad

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 25 Jul 2024, 21:55 last edited by
                                      #21

                                      I've heard the Vance choice is ideological rather than for electability. One coherent way to think about it, is that Trump worries he'll be killed, and he wants his backup to be the guy he trusts most to advance his platform.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 25 Jul 2024, 22:21 last edited by
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                                        Not to advance the obviously completely absurd idea that Trump cares about any ideology other than self-aggrandizement. Everybody knows that Trump cares about nothing but himself. Sorry to pollute this forum with such a crazy idea that he cares about an ideological legacy.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace
                                          25 Jul 2024, 22:21

                                          Not to advance the obviously completely absurd idea that Trump cares about any ideology other than self-aggrandizement. Everybody knows that Trump cares about nothing but himself. Sorry to pollute this forum with such a crazy idea that he cares about an ideological legacy.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 26 Jul 2024, 14:07 last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in Youngkin?:

                                          Not to advance the obviously completely absurd idea that Trump cares about any ideology other than self-aggrandizement. Everybody knows that Trump cares about nothing but himself. Sorry to pollute this forum with such a crazy idea that he cares about an ideological legacy.

                                          Said before, Trumpism is a movement. Trump wants to fundamentally change the GOP. It's more American centric, less globally focused, has more elements of populism and has an industrialism focus. It has an element of Reaganism, where a rising economic tide lifts all boats. It emphasizes less government regulation, less federal mandates and lower taxes.

                                          Trump has on multiple occasions championed the worth of people who create and build things... Craftsmen, factory workers, entrepreneurs, etc. In that aspect, it is more blue collar than the Romney wing of the party.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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