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  • D Doctor Phibes
    12 Jul 2024, 01:11

    @George-K said in Want to climb Everest?:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Want to climb Everest?:

    That photograph really makes me wonder whether the flat-earthers are actually totally wrong

    It's a funky lens on the camera. C'mon, man!

    Damn, you're probably right. Appararently the curve isn't visible from there.

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    George K
    wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 01:24 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Want to climb Everest?:

    Appararently the curve isn't visible from there.

    I believe you have to be at about 50K feet to appreciate the curve.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 01:30 last edited by
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      Chat GPT:

      The curvature of the Earth becomes apparent at different altitudes depending on various factors like atmospheric clarity and viewing conditions. However, a general guideline is:

      Commercial Airliner Altitude (30,000 to 40,000 feet or about 9 to 12 kilometers): Passengers may start to perceive a slight curvature, especially when looking out of the window over a broad horizon.

      Higher Altitudes (50,000 feet or about 15 kilometers and above): The curvature becomes more pronounced and noticeable.

      Very High Altitudes (above 100,000 feet or about 30 kilometers): The curvature is clearly visible and unmistakable.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        12 Jul 2024, 01:24

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Want to climb Everest?:

        Appararently the curve isn't visible from there.

        I believe you have to be at about 50K feet to appreciate the curve.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 01:30 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Want to climb Everest?:

        I believe you have to be at about 50K feet to appreciate the curve.

        Presumably the chances that the people who insist on the flat earth "theory" have the intellectual wherewithall to build a rocket capable of getting up that high are negligible.

        I was only joking

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          Klaus
          wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 11:24 last edited by
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          Wow, look at the amount of people there. I've never wanted to climb Mount Everest, but now I want it even less.

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          • H Horace
            11 Jul 2024, 21:41

            Anybody here ever summit Everest? I mean other than me? Standing atop the world, looking down on the planet and all of its inhabitants, finally proving my abject superiority over everybody else, was deeply humbling.

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            89th
            wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 12:08 last edited by
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            @Horace said in Want to climb Everest?:

            Anybody here ever summit Everest? I mean other than me? Standing atop the world, looking down on the planet and all of its inhabitants, finally proving my abject superiority over everybody else, was deeply humbling.

            Here's the question, do you lie and tell people you climbed the 29,000-ft mountain or do you really admit you flew into an airport 2/3 of the way up and then climbed the rest? I want to meet the first person to truly climb the mountain from the bottom of the mountain.

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              12 Jul 2024, 12:08

              @Horace said in Want to climb Everest?:

              Anybody here ever summit Everest? I mean other than me? Standing atop the world, looking down on the planet and all of its inhabitants, finally proving my abject superiority over everybody else, was deeply humbling.

              Here's the question, do you lie and tell people you climbed the 29,000-ft mountain or do you really admit you flew into an airport 2/3 of the way up and then climbed the rest? I want to meet the first person to truly climb the mountain from the bottom of the mountain.

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              Klaus
              wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 14:11 last edited by
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              @89th said in Want to climb Everest?:

              @Horace said in Want to climb Everest?:

              Anybody here ever summit Everest? I mean other than me? Standing atop the world, looking down on the planet and all of its inhabitants, finally proving my abject superiority over everybody else, was deeply humbling.

              Here's the question, do you lie and tell people you climbed the 29,000-ft mountain or do you really admit you flew into an airport 2/3 of the way up and then climbed the rest? I want to meet the first person to truly climb the mountain from the bottom of the mountain.

              But where does the mountain start?

              I guess if you mean "from zero" then the trip would be at least a 1000 miles long. The next place with elevation 0 seems to be somewhere at the coast of India.

              8300c77b-0633-4092-b5d3-c661b34501b2-image.png

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                Copper
                wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 15:50 last edited by
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                Sea level is kind of arbitrary, go all the way to the bottom.

                Sure you need O2, but you need it at the top too.

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                • K Klaus
                  12 Jul 2024, 14:11

                  @89th said in Want to climb Everest?:

                  @Horace said in Want to climb Everest?:

                  Anybody here ever summit Everest? I mean other than me? Standing atop the world, looking down on the planet and all of its inhabitants, finally proving my abject superiority over everybody else, was deeply humbling.

                  Here's the question, do you lie and tell people you climbed the 29,000-ft mountain or do you really admit you flew into an airport 2/3 of the way up and then climbed the rest? I want to meet the first person to truly climb the mountain from the bottom of the mountain.

                  But where does the mountain start?

                  I guess if you mean "from zero" then the trip would be at least a 1000 miles long. The next place with elevation 0 seems to be somewhere at the coast of India.

                  8300c77b-0633-4092-b5d3-c661b34501b2-image.png

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                  89th
                  wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 15:59 last edited by
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                  @Klaus Ok how about the Koshi Bridge or similar location at the base of the Himalayas. That's like 200m, I'll take that as a legit "start from the bottom of the mountain".

                  taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2024, 16:45
                  • 8 89th
                    12 Jul 2024, 15:59

                    @Klaus Ok how about the Koshi Bridge or similar location at the base of the Himalayas. That's like 200m, I'll take that as a legit "start from the bottom of the mountain".

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 16:45 last edited by
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                    @89th That is actually quite an interesting question.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 16:54 last edited by
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                      Maybe that’s why we, those who have summited Everest, find it so humbling. We know we failed the real challenge of starting at the bottom.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 18:09 last edited by
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                        Other than Horace, who my sources inform me started 17 feet from the top, I think a lot of people start at about 9000 feet above sea level. I know somebody normal (i.e. non climber) who made the walk to base camp, and they said that was adventure enough.

                        I'm guessing that it doesn't get easier the higher you go, despite the reduced wind-resistance as the air thins.

                        I was only joking

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                          89th
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 18:15 last edited by
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                          Here are the videos I'm talking about, if you want to spend 30 minutes (per video) and experience the summit, the descent, or even the full trip:

                          Link to video

                          Link to video

                          Link to video

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 15:59 last edited by
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                            Just curious if anyone here has been above 20000 feet while on land.

                            (and no @copper, being in an airplane does not count!!!! LOL)

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 16:15 last edited by Copper
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                              Kīlauea is 20,000 feet above the ocean floor. I have been up there.

                              Haleakalā is 29,000 feet above the ocean floor. I have been up there.

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                              • C Copper
                                13 Jul 2024, 16:15

                                Kīlauea is 20,000 feet above the ocean floor. I have been up there.

                                Haleakalā is 29,000 feet above the ocean floor. I have been up there.

                                image.png

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 13 Jul 2024, 16:24 last edited by
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                                @Copper Good point. 😛

                                I should rephrase. 20,000 feet above sea level.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                                  13 Jul 2024, 15:59

                                  Just curious if anyone here has been above 20000 feet while on land.

                                  (and no @copper, being in an airplane does not count!!!! LOL)

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 14 Jul 2024, 08:06 last edited by bachophile
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                                  @taiwan_girl I’ve summited Kilimanjaro which is 19341 ft so I guess my answer to you is I haven’t.

                                  ps in the year 1999. Before my PW sign up.

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                                  • bachophileB bachophile
                                    14 Jul 2024, 08:06

                                    @taiwan_girl I’ve summited Kilimanjaro which is 19341 ft so I guess my answer to you is I haven’t.

                                    ps in the year 1999. Before my PW sign up.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 14 Jul 2024, 14:44 last edited by
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                                    @bachophile said in Want to climb Everest?:

                                    @taiwan_girl I’ve summited Kilimanjaro which is 19341 ft so I guess my answer to you is I haven’t.

                                    ps in the year 1999. Before my PW sign up.

                                    That is pretty darn close!!! I think you are the TNCR highest!

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 22 Mar 2025, 00:04 last edited by
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                                      With Everest climbing season opening again imminently, the idea of using drones on the world's tallest mountain to ease the load on sherpas has been making waves

                                      Officials in Nepal are gearing up to resume testing drones from next month with the view to use them to carry equipment up the mountain in the future.

                                      Trials began in 2024 when Chinese drone manufacturer DJI teamed up with Nepalese drone service company Airlift and mountain guide Mingma Gyalje Sherpa. They completed the first successful drone delivery trials, carrying 33lb (15kg) payloads from Base Camp to Camp 1.

                                      and

                                      While drones could take away risk and enhance safety for sherpas, who may need to complete fewer trips and could use geolocation capabilities to pinpoint routes in changing landscapes, they come at a price. One DJI drone can cost more than $70,000.

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