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High-tech eSTOL aircraft hardly needs any runway

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    #1

    https://newatlas.com/aircraft/electra-estol-first-short-takeoff-landing/

    ... the most fun part is the way those small props concentrate airflow over the wings, creating a blown-lift scenario that allows operators to take off and land on soccer-pitch-sized 300 x 100-ft (91 x 30-m) airstrips. That's pretty wild for a nine-seater.

    And you certainly won't need all of that 300 feet. Electra has now flown its first STOL operation at the Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia, using its EL-2 Goldfinch demonstrator aircraft – and it needed just over half that length.

    in the video below, the take off is at 1:35. Landing is at 2:25

    Link to video

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    • George KG Offline
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      Cool beans.

      I wonder that @copper thinks.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        #3

        Cool! I doubt copper ever minded a nice headwind during take off. Reminds me of the bush planes in Alaska

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          #4

          Related in that this is another possible "innovation" in airplane travel.

          Could the "Flyingn Piano" help transform air cargo?

          Geese already know how to do it. When you see them flying in a v-formation, they are surfing on the air currents created by formation members ahead and around them.
          At an airfield in Texas, Todd Graetz is hoping to use that concept to disrupt the market for air cargo.
          Aerolane has been mimicking the tricks used by migrating birds, aided by modified planes towed into the air by another aircraft.
          Smoke released from the leading plane allowed cameras installed in the towed aircraft to capture vortices in the air that a glider can exploit to stay aloft.
          Their latest test aircraft is known as the “flying piano” because of its poor gliding characteristics.
          Its twin engines idle for electrical power while it glides along with propellers turning for purely aerodynamic purposes.
          Other tests have measured the tension in the towing line.
          They spotted when the line went slack, indicating the glider is surfing along on currents generated by the aircraft ahead.

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          • George KG George K

            Cool beans.

            I wonder that @copper thinks.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by Copper
            #5

            @George-K said in High-tech eSTOL aircraft hardly needs any runway:

            I wonder that @copper thinks.

            Nice

            But

            Take another look at the video between 2:25 and 3:00.

            And ask yourself, how did they take that shot? That was a magic camera or super-drone or something.

            It looks a lot like a MS flight sim video to me.

            It might be real, but I have questions.

            And the story said:

            Electra has now flown its first STOL operation at the Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia,

            I've been to Manassas airport many times, at 2:59, that doesn't look like Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia.

            Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia, has 2 parallel runways 34L and 34R, the video shows runway 33

            See the Manassas airport here:
            https://www.google.com/maps/search/mannassass+airport/@38.7184152,-77.5142764,1222m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              I just found runway 33 - it is at Warrenton-Fauquier Airport which is near Manassas and used in their testing.

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              • CopperC Copper

                @George-K said in High-tech eSTOL aircraft hardly needs any runway:

                I wonder that @copper thinks.

                Nice

                But

                Take another look at the video between 2:25 and 3:00.

                And ask yourself, how did they take that shot? That was a magic camera or super-drone or something.

                It looks a lot like a MS flight sim video to me.

                It might be real, but I have questions.

                And the story said:

                Electra has now flown its first STOL operation at the Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia,

                I've been to Manassas airport many times, at 2:59, that doesn't look like Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia.

                Manassas Regional Airport in Virginia, has 2 parallel runways 34L and 34R, the video shows runway 33

                See the Manassas airport here:
                https://www.google.com/maps/search/mannassass+airport/@38.7184152,-77.5142764,1222m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #7

                @Copper said in High-tech eSTOL aircraft hardly needs any runway:

                Take another look at the video between 2:25 and 3:00.

                And ask yourself, how did they take that shot? That was a magic camera or super-drone or something.

                It looks a lot like a MS flight sim video to me.

                Well....

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                • 89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Drone. But yes, almost looks computer-game fake.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Copper said in High-tech eSTOL aircraft hardly needs any runway:

                    Take another look at the video between 2:25 and 3:00.

                    And ask yourself, how did they take that shot? That was a magic camera or super-drone or something.

                    It looks a lot like a MS flight sim video to me.

                    Well....

                    CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @George-K said in High-tech eSTOL aircraft hardly needs any runway:

                    Well....

                    Well, well, well, I don't know, I have to say the plane is probably real.

                    The video looks kind of fake, maybe it is just a nice day with a nice camera.

                    The thing that got me was that the plane in the video was not at the airport they said (Manassas).

                    I found references to Warrenton as a test site. So, ok, that runway in the video looks like Warrenton. Warrenton is never mentioned in the story, I thought that was suspicious.

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