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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Poor Pelosi...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/07/02/pelosi_this_is_not_a_normal_election_trump_must_be_stopped.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Offline
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      What say we let the voters decide, Nancy? Mkay?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Every single election is the most important one ever, and the fate of civilization hangs in the balance. I remember when Obama was the new Hitler. Now Trump is the old Hitler.

        I was only joking

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          Old hats for Trump

          Elbows up!

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Every single election is the most important one ever, and the fate of civilization hangs in the balance. I remember when Obama was the new Hitler. Now Trump is the old Hitler.

            89th8 Online
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in He must be stopped.:

            Every single election is the most important one ever, and the fate of civilization hangs in the balance. I remember when Obama was the new Hitler. Now Trump is the old Hitler.

            Exactly.

            As much as I dislike Trump's morality, dishonesty, handling of COVID, and most egregiously, handling of his election loss... he is not a threat to democracy. He's a loudmouth alpha male that will likely made headlines, reduce inflation, keep the stock market going up, hopefully come up with some landmark deals to handle social security and national debt, and replace Thomas (at least) on SCOTUS.

            I won't vote for the man for the same reasons I didn't vote for him in 2016 and 2020, but this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028.

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            • 89th8 89th

              @Doctor-Phibes said in He must be stopped.:

              Every single election is the most important one ever, and the fate of civilization hangs in the balance. I remember when Obama was the new Hitler. Now Trump is the old Hitler.

              Exactly.

              As much as I dislike Trump's morality, dishonesty, handling of COVID, and most egregiously, handling of his election loss... he is not a threat to democracy. He's a loudmouth alpha male that will likely made headlines, reduce inflation, keep the stock market going up, hopefully come up with some landmark deals to handle social security and national debt, and replace Thomas (at least) on SCOTUS.

              I won't vote for the man for the same reasons I didn't vote for him in 2016 and 2020, but this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028.

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              @89th said in He must be stopped.:

              this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028

              Agree. Comparing the collapse of the US if you dont vote for candidate X is something that happens every election.

              The great thing about US politics is that it is a pendulum which eventually comes back (close to) the center.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @89th said in He must be stopped.:

                this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028

                Agree. Comparing the collapse of the US if you dont vote for candidate X is something that happens every election.

                The great thing about US politics is that it is a pendulum which eventually comes back (close to) the center.

                MikM Offline
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                @taiwan_girl said in He must be stopped.:

                @89th said in He must be stopped.:

                this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028

                Agree. Comparing the collapse of the US if you dont vote for candidate X is something that happens every election.

                The great thing about US politics is that it is a pendulum which eventually comes back (close to) the center.

                That’s what we thought in 2020.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • 89th8 Online
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                  @Mik what do you mean? It very much did that in 2020... and thanks to Jim Clyburn in SC, we ended up with Biden, a moderate compared to the Bernie extremism that was almost becoming inevitable (although one could argue Trump would've beat Bernie).

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in He must be stopped.:

                    Every single election is the most important one ever, and the fate of civilization hangs in the balance. I remember when Obama was the new Hitler. Now Trump is the old Hitler.

                    Exactly.

                    As much as I dislike Trump's morality, dishonesty, handling of COVID, and most egregiously, handling of his election loss... he is not a threat to democracy. He's a loudmouth alpha male that will likely made headlines, reduce inflation, keep the stock market going up, hopefully come up with some landmark deals to handle social security and national debt, and replace Thomas (at least) on SCOTUS.

                    I won't vote for the man for the same reasons I didn't vote for him in 2016 and 2020, but this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028.

                    HoraceH Online
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                    @89th said in He must be stopped.:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in He must be stopped.:

                    Every single election is the most important one ever, and the fate of civilization hangs in the balance. I remember when Obama was the new Hitler. Now Trump is the old Hitler.

                    Exactly.

                    As much as I dislike Trump's morality, dishonesty, handling of COVID, and most egregiously, handling of his election loss... he is not a threat to democracy. He's a loudmouth alpha male that will likely made headlines, reduce inflation, keep the stock market going up, hopefully come up with some landmark deals to handle social security and national debt, and replace Thomas (at least) on SCOTUS.

                    I won't vote for the man for the same reasons I didn't vote for him in 2016 and 2020, but this election is nothing more than another 4 years before we get a fresh (younger) slate of characters fighting for the job in 2028.

                    It's great that you are more measured than many about your distaste for Trump, but would you deny that large parts of the mainstream deeply embrace the existential threat narrative, to a greater extent than any other mainstream opposition to any other major candidate ever has?

                    One can argue reasonably that that existential threat narrative was earned by Trump, but at least we should admit that we've set a record for the pervasiveness of the existential threat messaging in the mainstream.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Do you talk like this in real life? Sometimes I have to read your reply three times before I understand it, in this case it was only two times, so maybe I'm getting better LOL. Yes, large parts of the mainstream have embraced the narrative of Trump being an existential threat... sure Trump has pushed the envelope more than any modern President, but I've seen how large swaths of the voting public can easily fall into a narrative trap. As Trump once said about Charlottesville, are many gullible people, on both sides!

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @Mik what do you mean? It very much did that in 2020... and thanks to Jim Clyburn in SC, we ended up with Biden, a moderate compared to the Bernie extremism that was almost becoming inevitable (although one could argue Trump would've beat Bernie).

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                        @89th said in He must be stopped.:

                        @Mik what do you mean? It very much did that in 2020... and thanks to Jim Clyburn in SC, we ended up with Biden, a moderate compared to the Bernie extremism that was almost becoming inevitable (although one could argue Trump would've beat Bernie).

                        And did we get a fresh, younger slate? No. We got the same old retreads.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @89th said in He must be stopped.:

                          @Mik what do you mean? It very much did that in 2020... and thanks to Jim Clyburn in SC, we ended up with Biden, a moderate compared to the Bernie extremism that was almost becoming inevitable (although one could argue Trump would've beat Bernie).

                          And did we get a fresh, younger slate? No. We got the same old retreads.

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                          @Mik said in He must be stopped.:

                          We got the same old retreads.

                          Looking on the bright side, they'll be dead in four years, or at the least in some kind of a home.

                          I was only joking

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            Do you talk like this in real life? Sometimes I have to read your reply three times before I understand it, in this case it was only two times, so maybe I'm getting better LOL. Yes, large parts of the mainstream have embraced the narrative of Trump being an existential threat... sure Trump has pushed the envelope more than any modern President, but I've seen how large swaths of the voting public can easily fall into a narrative trap. As Trump once said about Charlottesville, are many gullible people, on both sides!

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                            @89th said in He must be stopped.:

                            Do you talk like this in real life?

                            When I'm talking about technical things, I often lose people. But I could have written this more simply. My point is that the TDS inspired existential threat narratives have set a new standard for how seriously people are taking that messaging. I know the talking points about the destruction of the country are historically ubiquitous, but I don't think they've ever been taken as seriously as they are now.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • 89th8 Online
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                              True. And to be fair, Trump’s shenanigans (not accepting his loss) and statements (killing political rivals, hypothetically) aren’t helping his cause. Still… the 2028 election will go on like normal. Democracy continues.

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