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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @George-K said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

    'It's a mess'

    President Joe Biden is expected to discuss the future of his re-election campaign with family at Camp David on Sunday, following a nationally televised debate Thursday that left many fellow Democrats worried about his ability to beat former President Donald Trump in November, according to five people familiar with the matter.

    Biden’s trip was planned before Thursday’s debate. He and first lady Jill Biden are scheduled to join their children and grandchildren there late Saturday.

    So far, the party’s top leaders have offered public support for Biden, including in tweets posted by former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Senior congressional Democrats, including Reps. Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Jim Clyburn of South Carolina and Nancy Pelosi of California, have privately expressed concerns about his viability, said two sources apprised of those discussions, even as they all publicly back the president.

    This account of a president and his party in crisis just a little more than four months before an election they say will determine the fate of democracy is drawn from interviews with more than a dozen Democratic officials, operatives, aides and donors. All of them spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to describe matters as sensitive as whether a sitting president might give up his re-election bid and how he could be replaced on the ballot.

    Despite delivering a rousing speech at a rally in North Carolina on Friday that calmed some of his allies, Biden was described by one person familiar with his mood as humiliated, devoid of confidence and painfully aware that the physical images of him at the debate — eyes staring into the distance, mouth agape — will live beyond his presidency, along with a performance that at times was meandering, incoherent and difficult to hear.

    “It’s a mess,” this person said.

    Another person familiar with the dynamics said Biden will ultimately listen to only one adviser.

    “The only person who has ultimate influence with him is the first lady,” this person said. “If she decides there should be a change of course, there will be a change of course.”

    After publication of this report, a source familiar reached out to stress that the Camp David gathering was not a formal family meeting.

    40% of the country would vote for him if he was dead, as long as his name has a "D" behind it.

    I'd do a couple of things, if I were Biden and wanted to stay in...

    1. DO NOT DO ANOTHER DEBATE! Do scripted campaign events and photo ops. Do morning events when rested and medicated. Send Harris to states you know you are going to lose.
    2. Pray that the legal system gets Trump.
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    @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

    Send Harris to states you know you are going to lose.

    Strategery.....LOL.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      … the families of the children recently murdered by illegals. Trump has called every family...

      Has Trump called the families of the children murdered by citizens and/or legal immigrants? Do these families not deserve his empathy? 🤔

      That's so stupid it's unworthy of an answer.

      It unveils the stupidity of the original claim. Trump doesn’t call them out of empathy, he does it to score political points.

      During his Presidency, Trump routinely met with or called service families that had lost a loved one. It wasn't widely publicized. A picture occasionally, maybe the odd write-up.

      When he wasn’t calling them suckers for signing up in the first place.

      Cite, please?

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      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #56

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

      … the families of the children recently murdered by illegals. Trump has called every family...

      Has Trump called the families of the children murdered by citizens and/or legal immigrants? Do these families not deserve his empathy? 🤔

      That's so stupid it's unworthy of an answer.

      It unveils the stupidity of the original claim. Trump doesn’t call them out of empathy, he does it to score political points.

      During his Presidency, Trump routinely met with or called service families that had lost a loved one. It wasn't widely publicized. A picture occasionally, maybe the odd write-up.

      When he wasn’t calling them suckers for signing up in the first place.

      Cite, please?

      lol. Whatever gossip makes Trump look bad, becomes gospel. Cites are pre-TDS concepts. From Snopes:

      In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers."

      They left out of their summary all the people who were actually there who said he didn't say it, his Chief of Staff Kelly among them. People who would absolutely be honest about it if they had heard him say it.

      While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.

      I guess it's also possible that Biden raped his daughter in the shower, but I'm unable to independently verify that claim.

      Education is extremely important.

      JollyJ jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply
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        LuFins Dad
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        #57

        If they really want him to drop out, they should send in Ben & Jerry.

        The Brad

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          … the families of the children recently murdered by illegals. Trump has called every family...

          Has Trump called the families of the children murdered by citizens and/or legal immigrants? Do these families not deserve his empathy? 🤔

          That's so stupid it's unworthy of an answer.

          It unveils the stupidity of the original claim. Trump doesn’t call them out of empathy, he does it to score political points.

          During his Presidency, Trump routinely met with or called service families that had lost a loved one. It wasn't widely publicized. A picture occasionally, maybe the odd write-up.

          When he wasn’t calling them suckers for signing up in the first place.

          Cite, please?

          lol. Whatever gossip makes Trump look bad, becomes gospel. Cites are pre-TDS concepts. From Snopes:

          In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers."

          They left out of their summary all the people who were actually there who said he didn't say it, his Chief of Staff Kelly among them. People who would absolutely be honest about it if they had heard him say it.

          While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.

          I guess it's also possible that Biden raped his daughter in the shower, but I'm unable to independently verify that claim.

          JollyJ Offline
          JollyJ Offline
          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #58

          @Horace said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

          … the families of the children recently murdered by illegals. Trump has called every family...

          Has Trump called the families of the children murdered by citizens and/or legal immigrants? Do these families not deserve his empathy? 🤔

          That's so stupid it's unworthy of an answer.

          It unveils the stupidity of the original claim. Trump doesn’t call them out of empathy, he does it to score political points.

          During his Presidency, Trump routinely met with or called service families that had lost a loved one. It wasn't widely publicized. A picture occasionally, maybe the odd write-up.

          When he wasn’t calling them suckers for signing up in the first place.

          Cite, please?

          lol. Whatever gossip makes Trump look bad, becomes gospel. Cites are pre-TDS concepts. From Snopes:

          In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers."

          They left out of their summary all the people who were actually there who said he didn't say it, his Chief of Staff Kelly among them. People who would absolutely be honest about it if they had heard him say it.

          While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.

          I guess it's also possible that Biden raped his daughter in the shower, but I'm unable to independently verify that claim.

          Shucks, Bolton was there, and he said Trump didn't say it.

          And you know he doesn't care for Trump.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #59

            He probably said it while trying to grab the steering wheel.

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #60

              Just as a hypothetical...What would the news looked like if sources had to be named and any allegations had to be corroborated?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Just as a hypothetical...What would the news looked like if sources had to be named and any allegations had to be corroborated?

                AxtremusA Offline
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                #61

                @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                Just as a hypothetical...What would the news looked like if sources had to be named and any allegations had to be corroborated?

                Try posting only news that meet those criteria for a month and you'll get a feel of what that's like.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                  Just as a hypothetical...What would the news looked like if sources had to be named and any allegations had to be corroborated?

                  Try posting only news that meet those criteria for a month and you'll get a feel of what that's like.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                  @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                  Just as a hypothetical...What would the news looked like if sources had to be named and any allegations had to be corroborated?

                  Try posting only news that meet those criteria for a month and you'll get a feel of what that's like.

                  Non sequitur.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    Who will be the Dem nominee?

                    These two tweets should answer your question.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
                    LuFins DadL Offline
                    LuFins Dad
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                    #63

                    @George-K said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                    Who will be the Dem nominee?

                    These two tweets should answer your question.

                    Yeah, I totally remember that time Obama defended his abortion policy by pointing to a horrific rape and murder of a young girl that was caused by his failure to police the border and enforce the law of the land.

                    The Brad

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      Remember when Obama admitted that he wrecked Social Security in his debate with Romney? I totally thought Romney was going to win after that…

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Horace said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        … the families of the children recently murdered by illegals. Trump has called every family...

                        Has Trump called the families of the children murdered by citizens and/or legal immigrants? Do these families not deserve his empathy? 🤔

                        That's so stupid it's unworthy of an answer.

                        It unveils the stupidity of the original claim. Trump doesn’t call them out of empathy, he does it to score political points.

                        During his Presidency, Trump routinely met with or called service families that had lost a loved one. It wasn't widely publicized. A picture occasionally, maybe the odd write-up.

                        When he wasn’t calling them suckers for signing up in the first place.

                        Cite, please?

                        lol. Whatever gossip makes Trump look bad, becomes gospel. Cites are pre-TDS concepts. From Snopes:

                        In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers."

                        They left out of their summary all the people who were actually there who said he didn't say it, his Chief of Staff Kelly among them. People who would absolutely be honest about it if they had heard him say it.

                        While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.

                        I guess it's also possible that Biden raped his daughter in the shower, but I'm unable to independently verify that claim.

                        Shucks, Bolton was there, and he said Trump didn't say it.

                        And you know he doesn't care for Trump.

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                        George K
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                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                        @Horace said in [Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?

                        Shucks, Bolton was there, and he said Trump didn't say it.

                        And you know he doesn't care for Trump.

                        Saw a tweet by someone who saw the Kelly interview. Kelly didn’t hear it. Just said “ That sounds like something he’d say. “

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
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                          #66

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
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                            #67

                            Don't know anything about this polling outfit, but...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              Isn’t that a threat to democracy? I mean the Democratic Primary voters in 50 states have spoken…

                              The Brad

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                                #69

                                The Dems have already had a virtual convention. Biden is the nominee.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  #70

                                  What happens to that >$150M in Biden's war chest, if he withdraws? Does it go poof?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    What happens to that >$150M in Biden's war chest, if he withdraws? Does it go poof?

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    #71

                                    @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                    What happens to that >$150M in Biden's war chest, if he withdraws? Does it go poof?

                                    Not of it’s what’s her face…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      What happens to that >$150M in Biden's war chest, if he withdraws? Does it go poof?

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                                      @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                      What happens to that >$150M in Biden's war chest, if he withdraws? Does it go poof?

                                      There are federal rules on what can be done with leftover campaign funds after a candidate bows out. See https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/042716/what-happens-campaign-funds-after-elections.asp

                                      Among the "permissible uses" is this:

                                      Unlimited transfers to a local, state, or national political party committee like the Democratic or Republican National Committees.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        @Axtremus said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        @Jolly said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                        … the families of the children recently murdered by illegals. Trump has called every family...

                                        Has Trump called the families of the children murdered by citizens and/or legal immigrants? Do these families not deserve his empathy? 🤔

                                        That's so stupid it's unworthy of an answer.

                                        It unveils the stupidity of the original claim. Trump doesn’t call them out of empathy, he does it to score political points.

                                        During his Presidency, Trump routinely met with or called service families that had lost a loved one. It wasn't widely publicized. A picture occasionally, maybe the odd write-up.

                                        When he wasn’t calling them suckers for signing up in the first place.

                                        Cite, please?

                                        lol. Whatever gossip makes Trump look bad, becomes gospel. Cites are pre-TDS concepts. From Snopes:

                                        In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers."

                                        They left out of their summary all the people who were actually there who said he didn't say it, his Chief of Staff Kelly among them. People who would absolutely be honest about it if they had heard him say it.

                                        While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.

                                        I guess it's also possible that Biden raped his daughter in the shower, but I'm unable to independently verify that claim.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #73

                                        @Horace
                                        @Jolly

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna118543

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          @Horace
                                          @Jolly

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna118543

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Wonder who the Democrat nominee will be?:

                                          @Horace
                                          @Jolly

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna118543

                                          Was there something new in there or was it just Kelly reiterating his contempt for Trump?

                                          Education is extremely important.

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