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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    9-0 SCOTUS even thomas and alito.

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    George K
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    @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    9-0 SCOTUS even thomas and alito.

    Yup.

    "Thou shalt have no other gods..."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      LuFins Dad
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      #4

      Wow. And they are using the precedent of the coach having a prayer? That is exactly the opposite precedent.

      The Brad

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        We do have fun down here.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          We do have fun down here.

          AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          #6

          @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

          We do have fun down here.

          The unConstitutional sort, no less.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #7

            The Ten Commandments are pretty uncontroversial, if you take them as they are.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #8

              The no god before Me is kinda controversial…

              The Brad

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                Axtremus
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                #9

                Pretty uncontroversial, you say ...

                Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven images.

                That goes against the First Amendment (freedom of expression).

                Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

                That also goes against the First Amendment (freedom of expression).

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #10

                  That triggers you so badly it incapacitates you and keeps you from learning? A wall poster?

                  Ya got any bigger fish to fry?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    The no god before Me is kinda controversial…

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    The no god before Me is kinda controversial…

                    Whose God? Look at it in a broader context...

                    Allah? Buddah? Yahweh?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #12

                      I would hope the 5th circuit strikes it and Louisiana would know better than to appeal, and if they do cert won’t be granted

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain

                        Jesus

                        I was only joking

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #14

                          I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                          But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                          More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                          Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                          Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #15

                            Wait to the end....

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
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                              #16

                              Regarding western societies he's not wrong.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Regarding western societies he's not wrong.

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                                George K
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                                @Mik did you watch the whole thing? Look behind Landry.

                                Also, I think Hammurabi predates Moses.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #18

                                  Nah. Just spitballing.

                                  "The top of the stele features an image in relief of Hammurabi with Shamash, the Babylonian sun god and god of justice. Below the relief are about 4,130 lines of cuneiform text: one fifth contains a prologue and epilogue in poetic style, while the remaining four fifths contain what are generally called the laws."

                                  Kind of long for a classroom poster.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Mik did you watch the whole thing? Look behind Landry.

                                    Also, I think Hammurabi predates Moses.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                    Look behind Landry.

                                    Gasp! It’s a sign!
                                    Why must the children pay for … well … whatever they’re doing?

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                      But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                      More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                      Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                      Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                      I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                      But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                      More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                      Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                      Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                                      I can't be bothered to be that outraged over Louisiana's shenanigans in part because of what Shapiro outlined.

                                      Like, okay, they'll take it down, but I'm not too outraged over their putting them up.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                        But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                        More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                        Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                        Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                                        I can't be bothered to be that outraged over Louisiana's shenanigans in part because of what Shapiro outlined.

                                        Like, okay, they'll take it down, but I'm not too outraged over their putting them up.

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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds

                                        right

                                        democrat religiophobes, if it was up to them we would have no history at all.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                          I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                          But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                          More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                          Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                          Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                                          I can't be bothered to be that outraged over Louisiana's shenanigans in part because of what Shapiro outlined.

                                          Like, okay, they'll take it down, but I'm not too outraged over their putting them up.

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                          @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                          I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                          But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                          More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                          Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                          Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                                          I can't be bothered to be that outraged over Louisiana's shenanigans in part because of what Shapiro outlined.

                                          Like, okay, they'll take it down, but I'm not too outraged over their putting them up.

                                          I get that and generally agree, and might go farther than Shapiro. We aren’t in a post-shame society, we are actively embracing those things that should cause shame.

                                          But this isn’t the solution. The problem here is that you are empowering those that push towards either extreme. Louisiana is a fairly conservative state, New Orleans and Baton Rouge not withstanding… The Governor and the legislature know this isn’t going to stand but it also doesn’t really affect them politically, so no big deal right? Eh, not so much. Now you have swing states and swing voters in PA, NC, MI, etc… that might have leaned one way becoming disenchanted or even reverse their position. It could have a very large effect nationally. Take the abortion issue. The bans in Alabama might be very successful there, but it cost the opportunity to gain Virginia. Ultimately, it’s a net loss of you are pro-life…

                                          The Brad

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