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The Ten Commandments Required

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    George K
    wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 00:17 last edited by
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    https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/19/politics/louisiana-classrooms-ten-commandments/index.html

    This will not stand.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 01:40 last edited by
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      9-0 SCOTUS even thomas and alito.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        20 Jun 2024, 01:40

        9-0 SCOTUS even thomas and alito.

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        George K
        wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 02:06 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

        9-0 SCOTUS even thomas and alito.

        Yup.

        "Thou shalt have no other gods..."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 02:10 last edited by
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          Wow. And they are using the precedent of the coach having a prayer? That is exactly the opposite precedent.

          The Brad

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            Jolly
            wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 02:12 last edited by
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            We do have fun down here.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              20 Jun 2024, 02:12

              We do have fun down here.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 03:11 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

              We do have fun down here.

              The unConstitutional sort, no less.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 03:12 last edited by
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                The Ten Commandments are pretty uncontroversial, if you take them as they are.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 03:41 last edited by
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                  The no god before Me is kinda controversial…

                  The Brad

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 03:48 last edited by
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                    Pretty uncontroversial, you say ...

                    Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven images.

                    That goes against the First Amendment (freedom of expression).

                    Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

                    That also goes against the First Amendment (freedom of expression).

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 05:08 last edited by
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                      That triggers you so badly it incapacitates you and keeps you from learning? A wall poster?

                      Ya got any bigger fish to fry?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        20 Jun 2024, 03:41

                        The no god before Me is kinda controversial…

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 05:09 last edited by
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                        The no god before Me is kinda controversial…

                        Whose God? Look at it in a broader context...

                        Allah? Buddah? Yahweh?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 10:10 last edited by
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                          I would hope the 5th circuit strikes it and Louisiana would know better than to appeal, and if they do cert won’t be granted

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 11:42 last edited by
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                            Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain

                            Jesus

                            I was only joking

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 12:06 last edited by
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                              I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                              But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                              More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                              Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                              Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 20:44 last edited by
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                                Wait to the end....

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 21:14 last edited by
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                                  Regarding western societies he's not wrong.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    20 Jun 2024, 21:14

                                    Regarding western societies he's not wrong.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 21:16 last edited by
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                                    @Mik did you watch the whole thing? Look behind Landry.

                                    Also, I think Hammurabi predates Moses.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 21:29 last edited by Mik
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                                      Nah. Just spitballing.

                                      "The top of the stele features an image in relief of Hammurabi with Shamash, the Babylonian sun god and god of justice. Below the relief are about 4,130 lines of cuneiform text: one fifth contains a prologue and epilogue in poetic style, while the remaining four fifths contain what are generally called the laws."

                                      Kind of long for a classroom poster.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        20 Jun 2024, 21:16

                                        @Mik did you watch the whole thing? Look behind Landry.

                                        Also, I think Hammurabi predates Moses.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 21:30 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        Look behind Landry.

                                        Gasp! It’s a sign!
                                        Why must the children pay for … well … whatever they’re doing?

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                                          20 Jun 2024, 12:06

                                          I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                          But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                          More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                          Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                          Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2024, 21:57 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                          I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

                                          But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

                                          More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

                                          Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

                                          Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

                                          I can't be bothered to be that outraged over Louisiana's shenanigans in part because of what Shapiro outlined.

                                          Like, okay, they'll take it down, but I'm not too outraged over their putting them up.

                                          Please love yourself.

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