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Vaccine: The next battle

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    89th
    wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 14:33 last edited by
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    Interesting podcast on NYT’s The Daily podcast (link below) about how, when there IS a vaccine ready, that 50% of the country may not take it, or hesitant about it.

    I’d only be hesitant given rush of a vaccine being created. So maybe I’m part of that 50%?

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000485600328

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 14:41 last edited by
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      Cool, the line will be shorter for the rest of us.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • J jon-nyc
        22 Jul 2020, 14:41

        Cool, the line will be shorter for the rest of us.

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        George K
        wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 14:45 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Vaccine: The next battle:

        Cool, the line will be shorter for the rest of us.

        I was thinking the same thing.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          22 Jul 2020, 14:41

          Cool, the line will be shorter for the rest of us.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 14:45 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Vaccine: The next battle:

          Cool, the line will be shorter for the rest of us.

          Yep, fine by me.

          I'll be looking into the particulars of the vaccine myself, because there's unprecedented pressure to finalize one. But at the same time, we do have a process, it's being followed, and I seriously doubt any company wants to become the greatest corporate villain the world has ever known by mass-producing a dangerous vaccine that hurts its recipients.

          Please love yourself.

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            Mik
            wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 14:49 last edited by Mik
            #5

            Classic risk - reward. In this case the reward is a return to normalcy. Risk will be minimal.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 15:07 last edited by
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              I hope Gilead, Genentech, GlaxoSmithKlein, Griffols, and Grünenthal collaborate and call their product 'the 5G vaccine'.

              That should shorten the line even more.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Mik
                wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 15:10 last edited by
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                😆

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 15:13 last edited by
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                  If we can get Bill Gates' name on it, that would be even better

                  I was only joking

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 15:19 last edited by
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                    He could just pay for the manufacturing, which I believe he's already doing, and then it could be 'the 5G vaccine funded by Bill Gates'.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      22 Jul 2020, 15:07

                      I hope Gilead, Genentech, GlaxoSmithKlein, Griffols, and Grünenthal collaborate and call their product 'the 5G vaccine'.

                      That should shorten the line even more.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 18:38 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Vaccine: The next battle:

                      I hope Gilead, Genentech, GlaxoSmithKlein, Griffols, and Grünenthal collaborate and call their product 'the 5G vaccine'.

                      That should shorten the line even more.

                      Genius!

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 18:40 last edited by
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                        In fairness, one's personal interest and risk profile is best served by the whole society other than you taking a vaccine. So who's the genius?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 18:52 last edited by
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                          genius

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                          • HoraceH Horace
                            22 Jul 2020, 18:40

                            In fairness, one's personal interest and risk profile is best served by the whole society other than you taking a vaccine. So who's the genius?

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 22 Jul 2020, 20:10 last edited by
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                            @Horace said in Vaccine: The next battle:

                            In fairness, one's personal interest and risk profile is best served by the whole society other than you taking a vaccine. So who's the genius?

                            Bill Gates. Not only does he get his name on a vaccine, he also gets to beta test Windows 13 Nano Edition on billions of people.

                            I was only joking

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                              22 Jul 2020, 14:33

                              Interesting podcast on NYT’s The Daily podcast (link below) about how, when there IS a vaccine ready, that 50% of the country may not take it, or hesitant about it.

                              I’d only be hesitant given rush of a vaccine being created. So maybe I’m part of that 50%?

                              https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000485600328

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                              George K
                              wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 13:17 last edited by
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                              @89th said in Vaccine: The next battle:

                              Interesting podcast on NYT’s The Daily podcast (link below) about how, when there IS a vaccine ready, that 50% of the country may not take it, or hesitant about it.

                              I’d only be hesitant given rush of a vaccine being created. So maybe I’m part of that 50%?

                              https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000485600328

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 13:48 last edited by
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                                LOL

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 13:50 last edited by
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                                  The Russians already have one...☺

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • HoraceH Horace
                                    22 Jul 2020, 18:40

                                    In fairness, one's personal interest and risk profile is best served by the whole society other than you taking a vaccine. So who's the genius?

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 15:22 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Vaccine: The next battle:

                                    In fairness, one's personal interest and risk profile is best served by the whole society other than you taking a vaccine. So who's the genius?

                                    Free riding is only possible if nearly everyone else is vaccinated. That's why the anti-vaxxers usually get away with it. But from the looks of things we won't get sufficient take-up to support free riders. At least at first.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      18 Aug 2020, 13:50

                                      The Russians already have one...☺

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 15:23 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                      @Jolly said in Vaccine: The next battle:

                                      The Russians already have one...☺

                                      And the Chinese did a month before that. 'Approved' like the Russian one.

                                      We have dozens. But we have to do this damn safety and efficacy testing at scale that they don't concern themselves with.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 15:24 last edited by
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                                        Oh, and the Russians stole the Oxford/AZ vaccine anyway.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 00:34 last edited by
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                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/coronavirus-vaccine-trump/2020/09/01/b44b42be-e965-11ea-bf44-0d31c85838a5_story.html

                                          The Trump administration said it will not join a global effort to develop, manufacture and equitably distribute a coronavirus vaccine, in part because the World Health Organization is involved, a decision that could shape the course of the pandemic and the country’s role in health diplomacy.
                                          ...
                                          “The United States will continue to engage our international partners to ensure we defeat this virus, but we will not be constrained by multilateral organizations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China,” said Judd Deere, a spokesman for the White House.

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