Lying To The Camera
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
Nah, you're so biased you won't admit stone cold Truth.
Yeah, clearly I'm the biased one here.
Deflection.
Address the points.
Politicians aren't always completely honest. The idea that this was election fraud seems a bit silly. Alternatively, if it was, then paying off Stormy Daniels to stop her telling everybody about screwing Trump was also election fraud.
Trump lost in 2020. You need to get over it. You've had 4 years to go through the stages of grief which is more than enough.
Sorry, but we can't do this. We cannot have the government and the media work together to hide an explosive fact from the American public that could have a major effect on how a national vote turns out. Worse, it wasn't just not reporting something, it was an active lie and deception by a leading candidate, government and ex-government officials.
That's election interference writ large.
Doing so should not stand. It should have serious repercussions or next time it will be worse. And there will be a next time.
If those are the new rules, everybody will play by them.
@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
That's election interference writ large.
Doing so should not stand. It should have serious repercussions or next time it will be worse. And there will be a next time.
If those are the new rules, everybody will play by them.
Oh man can you image this type of response from you on January 6th if it was Obama and his BLM cadre storming the capitol and making up election fraud claims because Obama didn't like losing in an election? Your TNCR posts would be PURE gold in your outrage. But alas... it was Trump at the mic, not Obama.
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Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
I was only joking
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Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
Apparently not according to the gossips down at the town coffee and donut shop.
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Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
Or is that completely different?
I dunno. Did the National Enquirer bury evidence of corruption, or was it just his reprehensible behavior?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
Or is that completely different?
I dunno. Did the National Enquirer bury evidence of corruption, or was it just his reprehensible behavior?
@George-K said in Lying To The Camera:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
Or is that completely different?
I dunno. Did the National Enquirer bury evidence of corruption, or was it just his reprehensible behavior?
They buried information that could have led people not to vote for him. Isn't that the point of this? It's what Jolly is describing as election interference. They paid somebody off. Michael Cohen went to jail for lying about it.
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@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
That's election interference writ large.
Doing so should not stand. It should have serious repercussions or next time it will be worse. And there will be a next time.
If those are the new rules, everybody will play by them.
Oh man can you image this type of response from you on January 6th if it was Obama and his BLM cadre storming the capitol and making up election fraud claims because Obama didn't like losing in an election? Your TNCR posts would be PURE gold in your outrage. But alas... it was Trump at the mic, not Obama.
@89th said in Lying To The Camera:
@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
That's election interference writ large.
Doing so should not stand. It should have serious repercussions or next time it will be worse. And there will be a next time.
If those are the new rules, everybody will play by them.
Oh man can you image this type of response from you on January 6th if it was Obama and his BLM cadre storming the capitol and making up election fraud claims because Obama didn't like losing in an election? Your TNCR posts would be PURE gold in your outrage. But alas... it was Trump at the mic, not Obama.
Hypothetical.
I'm dealing in facts.
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Nah, you're so biased you won't admit stone cold Truth.
- Biden knowingly lied about the laptop - Fact.
- Officials knowingly concocted the 51 Letter, perpetuating another Russian fable, helping to give cover to a complicit media - Fact
- 80% of Americans think that truthful media coverage if his laptop would have changed votes in the 2020 election. Fact.
@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
Nah, you're so biased you won't admit stone cold Truth.
- Biden knowingly lied about the laptop - Fact.
- Officials knowingly concocted the 51 Letter, perpetuating another Russian fable, helping to give cover to a complicit media - Fact
- 80% of Americans think that truthful media coverage if his laptop would have changed votes in the 2020 election. Fact.
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Nobody thought the laptop was legit when it was revealed by Giuliani (!) in October. Even FoxNews and WSJ passed on the story.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
Nah, you're so biased you won't admit stone cold Truth.
- Biden knowingly lied about the laptop - Fact.
- Officials knowingly concocted the 51 Letter, perpetuating another Russian fable, helping to give cover to a complicit media - Fact
- 80% of Americans think that truthful media coverage if his laptop would have changed votes in the 2020 election. Fact.
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Nobody thought the laptop was legit when it was revealed by Giuliani (!) in October. Even FoxNews and WSJ passed on the story.
@jon-nyc said in Lying To The Camera:
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Didn't the FBI know about it for a year?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Jolly said in Lying To The Camera:
Nah, you're so biased you won't admit stone cold Truth.
- Biden knowingly lied about the laptop - Fact.
- Officials knowingly concocted the 51 Letter, perpetuating another Russian fable, helping to give cover to a complicit media - Fact
- 80% of Americans think that truthful media coverage if his laptop would have changed votes in the 2020 election. Fact.
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Nobody thought the laptop was legit when it was revealed by Giuliani (!) in October. Even FoxNews and WSJ passed on the story.
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Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
Didnt also the FBI manager announce an investigation of Hillary Clinton emails just before the 2016 election? And a lot of people say that was enough to influence their vote?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
Didnt also the FBI manager announce an investigation of Hillary Clinton emails just before the 2016 election? And a lot of people say that was enough to influence their vote?
@taiwan_girl said in Lying To The Camera:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Lying To The Camera:
Didn't the editor of the National Enquirer admit to suppressing negative stories about his friend Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign?
Or is that completely different?
Didnt also the FBI manager announce an investigation of Hillary Clinton emails just before the 2016 election? And a lot of people say that was enough to influence their vote?
Get your facts straight.
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@Jolly I am not sure where I am incorrect.
October 29, 2016 via NPR
Comey notified members of Congress that the FBI was again looking into Clinton's use of a private email server.
October 31, 2016 via CNN
Hillary Clinton’s campaign was jolted when FBI Director James Comey delivered the ultimate October surprise.
Eleven days before the 2016 presidential election, Comey announced that the FBI had discovered additional emails and is reviewing them to see whether they are related to the bureau’s investigation into Clinton’s handling of classified information.
October 30, 2016 via FOX
Here’s one thing we can all say for certain regarding the latest twist of the Hillary Clinton email scandal: James Comey, who was once regarded as the Eliot Ness of law enforcement, a modern day straight-shooter impenetrable to political pressure, will instead leave the office of FBI chief as something closer to Inspector Clouseau.
Don’t take my word for it; that’s the assessment of just about every law enforcement official, both former and present, I spoke to in the hours following his bizarre decision on Friday to reopen the case on the legality of Hillary Clinton’s email server, just days before the Nov 8 presidential election.
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Admitting Trump lost to a guy who could quite possibly be suffering from dementia is hard psychologically. But it's true nonetheless. And the inability to admit this inevitably leads to us having to sit through another election with two mentally deficient candidates attempting not to wet themselves during the debates.
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@jon-nyc said in Lying To The Camera:
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Didn't the FBI know about it for a year?
@George-K said in Lying To The Camera:
@jon-nyc said in Lying To The Camera:
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Didn't the FBI know about it for a year?
He didn’t say the FBI. He said the 51 officials and Joe himself.
It’s not like there’s some slack channel where every new development in every fbI investigation gets instantly shared with all government officials.
In fact, it was probably only a handful of FbI agents who knew.
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@George-K said in Lying To The Camera:
@jon-nyc said in Lying To The Camera:
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Didn't the FBI know about it for a year?
He didn’t say the FBI. He said the 51 officials and Joe himself.
It’s not like there’s some slack channel where every new development in every fbI investigation gets instantly shared with all government officials.
In fact, it was probably only a handful of FbI agents who knew.
@jon-nyc said in Lying To The Camera:
@George-K said in Lying To The Camera:
@jon-nyc said in Lying To The Camera:
Kind of hard to know what people knew and when.
Didn't the FBI know about it for a year?
He didn’t say the FBI. He said the 51 officials and Joe himself.
It’s not like there’s some slack channel where every new development in every fbI investigation gets instantly shared with all government officials.
In fact, it was probably only a handful of FbI agents who knew.
Biden knew.
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@Jolly I am not sure where I am incorrect.
October 29, 2016 via NPR
Comey notified members of Congress that the FBI was again looking into Clinton's use of a private email server.
October 31, 2016 via CNN
Hillary Clinton’s campaign was jolted when FBI Director James Comey delivered the ultimate October surprise.
Eleven days before the 2016 presidential election, Comey announced that the FBI had discovered additional emails and is reviewing them to see whether they are related to the bureau’s investigation into Clinton’s handling of classified information.
October 30, 2016 via FOX
Here’s one thing we can all say for certain regarding the latest twist of the Hillary Clinton email scandal: James Comey, who was once regarded as the Eliot Ness of law enforcement, a modern day straight-shooter impenetrable to political pressure, will instead leave the office of FBI chief as something closer to Inspector Clouseau.
Don’t take my word for it; that’s the assessment of just about every law enforcement official, both former and present, I spoke to in the hours following his bizarre decision on Friday to reopen the case on the legality of Hillary Clinton’s email server, just days before the Nov 8 presidential election.
@taiwan_girl said in Lying To The Camera:
@Jolly I am not sure where I am incorrect.
October 29, 2016 via NPR
Comey notified members of Congress that the FBI was again looking into Clinton's use of a private email server.
October 31, 2016 via CNN
Hillary Clinton’s campaign was jolted when FBI Director James Comey delivered the ultimate October surprise.
Eleven days before the 2016 presidential election, Comey announced that the FBI had discovered additional emails and is reviewing them to see whether they are related to the bureau’s investigation into Clinton’s handling of classified information.
October 30, 2016 via FOX
Here’s one thing we can all say for certain regarding the latest twist of the Hillary Clinton email scandal: James Comey, who was once regarded as the Eliot Ness of law enforcement, a modern day straight-shooter impenetrable to political pressure, will instead leave the office of FBI chief as something closer to Inspector Clouseau.
Don’t take my word for it; that’s the assessment of just about every law enforcement official, both former and present, I spoke to in the hours following his bizarre decision on Friday to reopen the case on the legality of Hillary Clinton’s email server, just days before the Nov 8 presidential election.
On one hand, we are comparing something that happened...It's a fact Hillary used a private server for official email, including classified documents, then tried to destroy all evidence of doing so.
On the other hand, we have a very real laptop from Hunter that contains examples of illegal behavior and possible acceptance of bribes, along with influence peddling. A laptop story that was spiked by MSM and the POTUS said was a lie. A laptop labeled as Russian disinformation by government officials who knew better.
See the difference?
