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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/03/28/trump-mail-early-voting-republicans/

    GOP scrambles to organize early and mail voting despite Trump’s attacks
    .
    In December, Donald Trump called for the end of mail-in voting in presidential elections. In February, he told Michigan voters that “mail-in voting is totally corrupt.” He later told Fox News host Laura Ingraham that “if you have mail-in balloting, you automatically have fraud.”

    .
    “The ballots are a disaster,” he said earlier this month to British TV host Nigel Farage, without offering evidence and despite having voted by mail himself in recent elections. “Any time the mail is involved, you’re going to have cheating. It’s too bad people don’t say it. They don’t want to say it.”

    .
    That message is complicating plans by officials at Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee to orchestrate aggressive efforts in key battleground states to persuade voters to cast their ballots early and by mail. Party officials say the efforts are crucial to win the election.
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      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-house-speaker-paul-ryan-says-hes-not-voting-for-trump--character-is-too-important-210633204.html

      Paul Ryan has no interest in giving Donald Trump another chance come November.

      The former House speaker told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that he doesn't plan to vote for the former president, adding he would be writing in a Republican candidate instead.

      “Character is too important for me,” Ryan told us at the Milken Institute Global Conference. “[The presidency] is a job that requires the kind of character [Trump] doesn’t have.”

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        https://wapo.st/3JYTTbv

        More "top Republicans" refuse to commit to accepting 2024 election results. These include VP-hopefuls like Scott, Burgum, and Stefanik.

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        • George KG George K

          Remember when the Democrats were considered stupid and the Republicans were considered evil?

          Those were good times weren’t they?

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #406

          @George-K said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

          Remember when the Democrats were considered stupid and the Republicans were considered evil?

          Despite numerous James Bond movies that would indicate otherwise, evil and stupid are clearly not mutually exclusive.

          I was only joking

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            #407

            https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/14/opinion/charlie-gibbs-ohio-democrats.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sE0.mvtt.Qe9Tf_hAzfVz

            Chris Gibbs, a farmer who raises soybeans, corn and cattle, spent much of his adult life as a leader of the Republican Party in Shelby County, Ohio. He rose from vice chair of the local executive committee to party chairman, a role he served in for seven years, until 2015. Last fall he was elected to a far tougher job: chairman of the Democratic Party in Shelby County, where registered Republicans outnumber Democrats more than eight to one.

            In today’s Republican Party, “You either speak with a Trump voice or you’re vaporized,” Mr. Gibbs told me. … “In the Democratic Party, everybody gets a voice. You don’t always get your way, but you get a voice.”

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/14/opinion/charlie-gibbs-ohio-democrats.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sE0.mvtt.Qe9Tf_hAzfVz

              Chris Gibbs, a farmer who raises soybeans, corn and cattle, spent much of his adult life as a leader of the Republican Party in Shelby County, Ohio. He rose from vice chair of the local executive committee to party chairman, a role he served in for seven years, until 2015. Last fall he was elected to a far tougher job: chairman of the Democratic Party in Shelby County, where registered Republicans outnumber Democrats more than eight to one.

              In today’s Republican Party, “You either speak with a Trump voice or you’re vaporized,” Mr. Gibbs told me. … “In the Democratic Party, everybody gets a voice. You don’t always get your way, but you get a voice.”

              CopperC Offline
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              @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              vaporized

              Really?

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              • MikM Offline
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                He has Jewish space lasers?

                I don't think the one guy is going to make any difference in that part of the state. A lot of us are unhappy with the current GOP but not ready to switch.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  #410

                  https://www.mediaite.com/politics/mitt-romney-shreds-fellow-republicans-prostrating-themselves-by-showing-up-at-trumps-porn-star-hush-money-trial/

                  Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) slammed his fellow Republicans for showing up at Donald Trump’s porn star hush money trial this week in fiery comments to CNN’s Manu Raju on Wednesday.

                  Raju reported that Romney told him, “I think it’s a little demeaning to show up in front of the courthouse — and particularly one where we’re talking about an allegation of paying a porn star. And it’s really, really very difficult to watch.”

                  EDIT TO ADD:

                  read://https_thehill.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fsenate%2F4665313-murkowski-knocks-senate-republicans-trump-trial%2F

                  Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) reportedly went after fellow members of her party who have attended former President Trump’s hush money trial in New York.

                  “Do we have something to do around here other than watch a stupid porn trial? I mean, this is ridiculous,” the Alaska Republican said Tuesday,

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    Wasn't it Bill Maher who said (I think I posted the link) that any time you see the word "shreds" (or "owns," or "destroys") in the headline of a story, stop reading.

                    And, Romney's complaining about a bimbo eruption - remember that term? - and this case is not about that. If I were Johnson, would I have shown up? Probably not. But to make an issue of it is silly.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Wasn't it Bill Maher who said (I think I posted the link) that any time you see the word "shreds" (or "owns," or "destroys") in the headline of a story, stop reading.

                      And, Romney's complaining about a bimbo eruption - remember that term? - and this case is not about that. If I were Johnson, would I have shown up? Probably not. But to make an issue of it is silly.

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                      @George-K said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      But to make an issue of it is silly.

                      He is not the only one. (See my edit above).

                      Even a recent Chicago Tribune editorial (which I think is somewhat conservative) said the same thing.

                      https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/05/14/editorial-donald-trump-mike-johnson-stormy-daniels-republicans/

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                      • George KG George K

                        Wasn't it Bill Maher who said (I think I posted the link) that any time you see the word "shreds" (or "owns," or "destroys") in the headline of a story, stop reading.

                        And, Romney's complaining about a bimbo eruption - remember that term? - and this case is not about that. If I were Johnson, would I have shown up? Probably not. But to make an issue of it is silly.

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                        #413

                        @George-K

                        If I were Johnson, would I have shown up? Probably not.

                        That was my initial knee jerk reaction as well. However after a little reflection, I believe it was an astute move on Johnson’s part.

                        Trump for good or bad has been supportive of Johnson over the attempts by the GOP trailer trash faction led by MTG to oust him as Speaker. Johnson attending the trial shows Party unity and isolates the reactionaries. In other words, better Johnson there than MTG or a few others.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @George-K said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          But to make an issue of it is silly.

                          He is not the only one. (See my edit above).

                          Even a recent Chicago Tribune editorial (which I think is somewhat conservative) said the same thing.

                          https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/05/14/editorial-donald-trump-mike-johnson-stormy-daniels-republicans/

                          George KG Offline
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          Chicago Tribune editorial (which I think is somewhat used to be conservative)

                          Not to derail, but one of the reasons John Kass left the Trib was because of its leftward drift.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Axtremus
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                            Link to video

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                              I mean, come on. 🙄

                              The House Oversight and Accountability Committee shuffled its schedule, bumping a hearing to hold Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress so some of its members could instead attend former President Trump’s hush money trial.

                              The panel was set to meet early Thursday, an hour after a twin resolution censuring Garland would likewise be considered by the House Judiciary Committee. Instead, it will now meet at 8 p.m. so numerous Republicans who sit on the panel — including Freedom Caucus members — could attend the trial.

                              A source confirmed to The Hill that the last-minute shift was to allow the lawmakers to make the trip to New York

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                                https://wapo.st/4dIDm9u

                                J.D. Vance wasn’t just some hillbilly after all

                                His journey from author to Trumpist senator is a fable for the GOP’s devolution.

                                [J. D. Vance's book] “Hillbilly Elegy” was embraced on the right for its indictment of cultural decay and its call to self-reliance; it was lauded on the left because it offered an explanation as to why good people would gravitate toward someone as reprehensible as Trump. That’s not my word, by the way — it was Vance’s, who called himself a Never Trumper at the time and warned Christian voters: “When we apologize for this man, Lord help us.”

                                ... By 2022, when [Vance] ran for the open seat left by retiring Sen. Rob Portman, Vance had gone from Never Trump to Long Live the King; his conversion included a spirited embrace of Trump’s stolen-election nonsense. His financier in that race was billionaire Peter Thiel, who had also bankrolled Trump in 2016.

                                Now Vance is gunning to be Trump’s running mate, which is why he bravely waded through the leftist filth of Manhattan to show his fealty. ...

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                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-backed-republican-platform-tempers-language-abortion-2024-07-08/

                                  Trump-backed Republican platform tempers language on abortion
                                  ...
                                  The platform, a basic statement of policy principles, takes Trump’s position that the issue of abortion now is one to be determined by individual states. It makes no mention of a federal ban or protecting a fetus as a person under the U.S. Constitution – tenets that have been included in past platforms and were demanded by a cadre of influential evangelicals.

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                                    Trump is pushing falsehoods. Some Republicans are worried about the fallout.

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/11/trump-disinformation-immigrants-storm-00183378

                                    Donald Trump is relying more than ever on easily debunked and often bizarre conspiracy theories and rumors — often to the frustration of even his fellow Republicans.

                                    In the final weeks of the campaign, the former president has been toggling between outlandish claims about Haitians and other migrants, false descriptions of the federal response to recent hurricanes and incorrect statistics about the economy and crime.

                                    Lots of examples of Republicans debunking various falsehoods pushed by Trump.

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                                      This is very important.

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                                        #421

                                        https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-election-10-23-2024/card/trump-lashes-out-at-former-chief-of-staff-calling-john-kelly-a-lowlife--GEc4s3CNYneC1dSAnbAC

                                        Recent on the record comments by John Kelly

                                        Among other things, Kelly has said Trump made favorable comments about Adolf Hitler, denigrated disabled veterans and argued Trump would rule like a dictator if returned to the White House. The Atlantic magazine also reported that Trump had expressed disdain for the military.

                                        and

                                        "He certainly prefers the dictator approach to government," "Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators - he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure."

                                        And in typical President Trump fashion, his response was:

                                        “John Kelly is a LOWLIFE, and a bad General, whose advice in the White House I no longer sought,

                                        I know we have talked about this before, but it amazes me that so so many people who worked very very closely with President Trump have such a negative opinion of him, yet President Trump still is held up as this beacon of greatness by quite a few people.

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                                          #422

                                          Senator McConnell speaks:

                                          In the minority leader's quotes revealed in the book, he doesn't hold back, reportedly slamming Trump as "stupid," "erratic," a "despicable human being," and a "narcissist."

                                          and

                                          In the weeks after the 2020 presidential election and before the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot, McConnell said, "It’s not just the Democrats who are counting the days" until Trump is no longer president.

                                          He further praised the "good judgment of the American people" for voting Trump out in 2020.

                                          "They’ve had just enough of the misrepresentations, the outright lies almost on a daily basis, and they fired him," he said, according to the excerpt.

                                          McConnell additionally blamed Trump for the House Republicans losing the majority in the lower chamber in the 2018 midterm elections. He "has every characteristic you would not want a president to have," he said.

                                          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/despicable-human-being-mcconnells-2020-thoughts-sleazeball-trump-revealed-new-book

                                          :woman-facepalming: Please explain how President Trump is beloved by 30-40% of the US public?

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