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  • T taiwan_girl
    18 Feb 2024, 03:55

    @George-K said in Stop shotspotter:

    ShotSpotter has previously received poor reviews, including one in May 2021 by the MacArthur Justice Center at the Northwestern School of Law which found that nearly 86% of police deployments to alerts of gunfire prompted no formal reports of any crime.

    My guessing is that the neighborhoods where they have the gunshots, many people do not want to talk or are afraid to talk, so the police cannot find out anything.

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    George K
    wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 12:29 last edited by
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    @taiwan_girl

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 23 Feb 2024, 02:03 last edited by
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      At this rate, they won't have any money left over to give to the illegal aliens migrants.

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        89th
        wrote on 23 Feb 2024, 02:27 last edited by 89th
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        So weird he’s extending it before canceling it. From the previous article explaining why:

        The police department will work to "revamp operations," enact new training and "further develop response models to gun violence that ultimately reduce shootings," before the contract ends in September, the mayor's office said. Also before the new deadline, the department will issue recommendations after it works with violence prevention organizations and other stakeholders to assess "various tools, data and programs."

        LOL can you imagine if the recommended data and tools is, oh I don’t know, to use SHOTSPOTTER?

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          George K
          wrote on 23 Feb 2024, 02:51 last edited by
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          As I linked a while ago, there's some controversy as to how effective ShotSpotter is. False alarms may be diverting police resources from actual threats.

          OTOH, the fact that (Let's Go!) Brandon Johnson is renewing the contract only until after the Democrats' convention in Chicago smacks me as being more than a bit cynical.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 23 Feb 2024, 03:46 last edited by
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            LOL

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 13:13 last edited by
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              LOL...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 15 May 2024, 13:56 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 15 May 2024, 13:58 last edited by
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                  Idiocracy.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    15 May 2024, 13:58

                    Idiocracy.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 15 May 2024, 14:03 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in Stop shotspotter:

                    Idiocracy.

                    See Willie Sutton post above.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on 15 May 2024, 14:30 last edited by
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                      Yup, we have a bit of that kind of thing in my town. "Did you know that there's a disproportionate number of traffic stops involving minorities relative to the population of our town??"

                      Yeah, but did you know that 87% of the crime comes from the community directly to the east - so maybe that accounts for the "disproportionate number" that you just referenced.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 16 May 2024, 09:21 last edited by jon-nyc
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                        The question is always ‘disproportionate to what?’

                        Their population? Wrong measure.

                        Their contribution to
                        gun violence? Yeah didn’t think so.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          George K
                          wrote on 24 May 2024, 01:27 last edited by
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                          I know this is local news, but it's reflective of the mindset of certain individuals who see everything through the prism of race.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 18:15 last edited by
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                            Chicago’s Mayor of Mayhem


                            Brandon Johnson kills a technology that detects shootings and saves lives.

                            ShotSpotter uses acoustic technology to detect gunfire and dispatches law enforcement to scenes of violence before 911 calls come in. Chicago has deployed the technology since 2012, mainly in its south and west sides. The University of Chicago Crime Lab found it likely saves about 85 lives a year.

                            The system has detected more than 200,000 gun shots in the 13 months ending in August. Even Mr. Johnson must think the technology works since in February he extended the contract through the summer, which is when gun violence typically peaks and the city hosted the Democratic National Convention.

                            But last week he said he’d let the ShotSpotter contract expire, calling it a waste of money. He may be taking his cues from Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who charged in May that ShotSpotter perpetuates “over-policing and unjustified surveillance” in minority neighborhoods.

                            The City Council disagreed and voted 33-14 to give Chicago Police Superintendent Larry Snelling the power to override the mayor’s office. “If one life is saved with gunshot detection technology, then it is absolutely worth having,” Alderman Ray Lopez said.

                            Alderman Brian Hopkins, chair of the council’s public safety committee, is threatening to go to court to keep ShotSpotter. It’s tempting to say the people of Chicago are getting the progressive rule they voted for, but no one deserves this mayor of criminal mayhem.


                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 18:16 last edited by
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                              I didn't think it could get worse than his predecessor. I was wrong.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
                                wrote on 14 Oct 2024, 00:43 last edited by
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 14 Oct 2024, 01:08 last edited by
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                                  Aliens studying humanity would come inexorably to the conclusion that black lives do not, in fact, matter to the Democrats in control of these cities.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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